With "potential" he does not mean driving skills but the money on their pocket. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
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With "potential" he does not mean driving skills but the money on their pocket. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
That might be, yes. But then I don't see anyone capable of replacing one of them at Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Maybe Breen will put his dad's money somewhere else instead of Peugeot next year?
id be thinking breen aswell
Don´t think Breen will do ERC again next year, too.
For sure no. They already reached their potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I´m optimistic and would like to say there are few drivers with a potential except from Emil Bergkvist atm. Yeah, I know I´m swedish. And yes. He hasn´t showed anything yet in a 4WD.
But still. If he succeeds in RIV things might be temptating for MW to take him under his arms and swop Evans.
if VW is ready to take Lappi, why not faster Tidemand to M-Sport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Speedwise only Lappi was everywhere faster than Tidemand except Catalunya.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
thank you! im also curious who Wilson sees as a potential driver instead of Tänak and Evans, im sure he is just bluffing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Tänak still has a lot of potential, not so sure about Evans.
For sure Tanak will stay at MSport. EVerything else would be maniacs.
Tanak sounds concerned for his 2016 seat... http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/octob...1--12-12-.html
For sure if Malcolm wants results he needs money to pay for good and experienced driver. Let's say Evans is on the way out. Who is available on the market to jump in and fight for podiums? For now only Meeke and Ostberg haven't got any contracts for 2016, maybe Sordo as well. I would count Kubica. Someone mentioned Lappi, Tidemand and Breen before, but aren't they similar cases as Evans and Tanak? They need at least 2 years to gain events experience before fighting for results. On the other hand we have experienced drivers but I doubt Wilson will take under consideration Atkinson, Hanninen or Bouffier .
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/121549 Marcus Gronholm tested the Polo R WRC 2017 last week on Tarmac.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
yeah i just read it, doesnt sound good at all :( ...He has the speed to take it to the VW's but he just needs the experience but how can you get it if you are sacked and then taken back again and you start from scratch again?
Neuville. Potential for someone to come on the market...Quote:
Originally Posted by b3637853
Tidemand is more consistent than Lappi... dunno if he'll be another Østberg and be consistent but hit a peak somewhere. I hope not! I have little faith in Lappi, too inconsistent and crashes way too often. Breen has hit his roof, I am sure. Quentin Gilbert is probably too inexperienced to join now but he is looking good speed wise (maybe needs more gravel experience though).
Bergkvist is also too inexperienced to do anything in 4wd car next season. Sure he is showing good pace in Valais but I doubt he'd do any top level manuf. driving before 2017 or -18.
Kubica is for me a serious option for a manufacturer in 2016. He is still growing and getting better. Just a bit heavy on the car rebuild budget maybe but hopefully that is changing (and he is crashing less these days).
A good driver with lots of experience with wrc and 4wd is Eyvind Brynhildsen.
Just a couple og outings in a wrc-car, but plenty in a fiesta rrc and evo9. 48 starts in wrc2 i think.
He was remarkable faster than Anders grøndal and frank Tore Larsen in this years National championship in Norway.
He will to a wrc2 campain next season in an R5.
He will do Wales in an fabia R5, so there we can see his standard.
Kubica has scored 8 points this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
That is less than or on par with Khalid Al Qassimi, Juho Hanninen (who has had one rally) and Yuriy Protasov.
And you expect a team manager to rationally believe that Kubica is deserving of a Manufacturer seat.
Just sit down and think about it.
I'm not saying Kubica is slow, i'm just saying think about it.
The last two rallies he has mostly been unlucky! I agree with you that points wise it doesn't look and I understand that a boss with fact sheets in his hands wouldn't sign kubica but if you look at what he has actually done, disregarding the middle of the season where he was also slow.
He has won stages on snow, tarmac, gravel, mixed condition etc etc this year. If you go by stage victories he has probably beaten a lot of the WRC field this year.
"Big wing" ? Was it really a new one ? I can't see the difference with the wing they used today, anyone knows what is the new size for 2017 vs actual size ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
He has been unlucky for several years...Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
WRC isn't rallysprint.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Not yet...... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Compared with old times, yes! Rallysprint in times and timetable
Not sure if this was ironic or not but sure... I agree, he hasn't really been the best in the world to keep it on the road and he has done silly mistakes but he is continously improving regarding consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
He also has a small budget and a handicap to work around so I'm at least impressed... He isn't worse this year than Tänak was in his first year or Novikov was when he drove and both of them got a manufacturers seat (and he has less experience than both of those two)
You mean he is not crashing two times per rally but only one now?Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Don't want to sound arrogant, I respect what you say of course, but I think it's time to give up on Kubica. He can be fast, he can have not too much experience (but not too less neither, now) but it is clear he can't handle a whole rally. He had almost 25 starts and collects less points than Al Qassimi. How much time should we keep saying "he's fast, it's Pirelli, it's his hand, it's Ford, it's the team, he's unlucky" ignoring he just had a wrong approach to the sport?
My view remain the same: if he had spent these two years to learn, now he could have been in a very different position. Instead he wanted to fight at the top since his very first WRC rally, and this is the result.
Seriously, he didn't crash in: Sweden, Portugal, Poland, France, Spain. Stop this BS that he crashes all the time everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
If they are not crash it's something else like punctures or similar. In fact he collect a few points in those rallyes where he didn't crash. That's why I would not call it an improvement in consistency . Sometimes it's the car's fault, yes, but it can't be everytime something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by thuGG
Gary Boyd @KiwiWRCfan
Rally Trivia
@MadsOstberg has scored #WRC points on all 11 #WRC events he has started in 2015.
Mads has not used Rally 2 rules in 2015
if Robert stick with the wrc I think he will win rallys.
why you put limits to your imagination ? why not championships ?Quote:
Originally Posted by christy but
that's just jinxing it...and now we're comming to the last round in Wales...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
He kind of does... I see why people say he crashes a lot because he really does.Quote:
Originally Posted by thuGG
I have more than one time put my head in my palms and went "arrrggh Robert, again?".
Sometimes it is many times per rally as well.
I do get what AL14 says... But i still see potential in Robert.
Also coming from F1 he has defintely done a better job than Räikkönen who's efforts were quite frankly pathetic.
He drives better with one arm than some with two, that I am certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
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Kubica's continuing to show a true passion over rallysport, and it's fair to say that this year he has improved a lot. He's a ultra competitive guy that only knows to drive at maximum attack mode, but it's very difficult to go flat out all the time when you're a privateer (even having a special treatment). It'd be great to see him getting a factory seat and a proper drive improving program (with the help of a former wrc champ), in order to put some consistency over his undisputed speed. It'll be a waste, for RK and for WRC, to see him in another non works attempt.
Portugal he had an incident on SS4Quote:
Originally Posted by thuGG
Poland had an incident on SS5
Spain had an incident SS4, SS5, SS14 and SS20
Not counting in France were he got a puncture from a cut.
One rally he has been mistake free in Sweden, where even there he had a couple of spins.
So would you say he is unlucky for these 'incidents' where he went off, or hit something, or is he lucky that these incidents didn't cause permanent retirement?
I am a fan of Kubica, and we all acknowledge the skill Kubica has. No one is doubting him as a fast rally driver.
But these are the facts. You can check it if you want and prove me wrong.
Incidents are not crashes. Everybody has incidents, the less and smaller the better of course, but you only don't have incidents when you don't drive.
I checked Portugal and Poland and there was nothing in Poland on SS5.
SS4 Portugal - "We have damage, we have a puncture. It's gone flat. We had a small off. No idea where it happened."Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
SS5 Poland - Yes I got that wrong, I meant SS12 - "A small off in one corner, onto the grass, that cost us a second."
The Poland one I would agree though, that wan't really much
But two rallies out the 2015 Season...
http://www.maxrally.com/2015/10/31/i...rsus-australia perhaps it's know already but for the time being it seems like we won't see Rally New-Zealand until at least 2018
I was talking about crashes, everyone has incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by leighton323
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then why does he only has 8 points in 12 rally's?Quote:
Originally Posted by thuGG
perhaps he doesn't always bins it completely, but he makes serious mistakes everytime.
the only rally that can be called good for him, was poland. when he only lost 2 minutes to ogier.
raikkonen did a lot better than kubica. he didn't win stages, but he managed to get results.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
kubica had done 39 rally's before he shifted to a full wrc season, raikkonen had done 4.
raikkonen: 59 points in 21 wrc rally's
kubica: 22 points in 24 wrc rally's
http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=6450&sct=1
http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=8567&sct=1
yet kubica scored 18 points in 7 rally's in wrc2, so it seems he knows how to drive fast.