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Always the same story here with the stage cancellations due to weather...

They could easily compete out there. The main point of the cancellations is that emergency apparatus couldn't move around well enough. I don't want to be trapped in a crashed car while the ambulance and fire truck with normal tyres and maybe even FWD/RWD only are stuck in a mud. Could you take the responsibility? All the cr*p about rallying not being "man" enough is utter BS, even an R2 ride in those conditions would make 80% of you sh*t your pants. Peace out, bros. :up:

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Originally Posted by Mauri A

The Safari cars were made to meet local challenges, todays cars met something which was not expected.

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I told a few days ago that it will be like in 2001. So, everyone who had proper weather report should have know what to expect. I told Kristo to by a boat for today beacuse they do not have enough proper tyres anyway, he promised to buy fins :-)

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Originally Posted by JAM

Rally is not anymore to real man.

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Obviously drivers nowadays are a bit girly, but don’t forget to mention these stupid tupperware cars, engineered to perfection … only on the computer simulation program :s

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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

Always the same story here with the stage cancellations due to weather...

They could easily compete out there. The main point of the cancellations is that emergency apparatus couldn't move around well enough. I don't want to be trapped in a crashed car while the ambulance and fire truck with normal tyres and maybe even FWD/RWD only are stuck in a mud. Could you take the responsibility? All the cr*p about rallying not being "man" enough is utter BS, even an R2 ride in those conditions would make 80% of you sh*t your pants. Peace out, bros. :up:

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Finally somebody who can understant the situation.

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Originally Posted by uranium

How time shall be recalculated now? And especially curious about Rally 2?

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There will be no peanlties for cancelled stages, so the times will be like they were after stage 7

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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

Always the same story here with the stage cancellations due to weather...

They could easily compete out there. The main point of the cancellations is that emergency apparatus couldn't move around well enough. I don't want to be trapped in a crashed car while the ambulance and fire truck with normal tyres and maybe even FWD/RWD only are stuck in a mud. Could you take the responsibility? All the cr*p about rallying not being "man" enough is utter BS, even an R2 ride in those conditions would make 80% of you sh*t your pants. Peace out, bros. :up:

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Well, I agree partly. Of course there´s a safety issue, but saying that they could easily compete out there is way too much. I know you Juha haven´t been competing yourself, so I shouldn´t do statements like that in your position. It´s not easy conditions, no way. The organizer did just what they had to do and I wrote that an hour ago.

A good decision, indeed.

Now let´s hope for a nice Saturday...?

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Originally Posted by JAM

It was, many years ago.

Since the boys with 20/22 years age started to be as good as the experienced ones, this sport started to be for boys.

From time to time appears an event tha shows to these boys that don't know nothing about rallying.

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Loeb, Latvala over 100 WRC start, Petter WRC champion.....boys like Novikov, Ostberg running fine- I'm not sure depends only on the age

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Originally Posted by ZequeArgentina

But if you see, the ones with more experience (Loeb, Solberg, Latavala)are the ones off the road!!!

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Loeb is any example? Loeb has troubles almost every time the conditions are not the usual ones. Look what he usually does on the swedish snow... boom!

Latvala is one of the young boys. With 20 years he was almost with a garantee seat on a WRC team.

Petter Solberg is from the old school, but failled.

Old style rallyes could have 1 minute diferences with internet split times & more. Look how intertesting was the stage from today. Sordo gave more than 1 minute to the leader on each stage.

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Originally Posted by JAM

Loeb is any example? Loeb has troubles almost every time the conditions are not the usual ones. Look what he usually does on the swedish snow... boom!

Latvala is one of the young boys. With 20 years he was almost with a garantee seat on a WRC team.

Petter Solberg is from the old school, but failled.

Old style rallyes could have 1 minute diferences with internet split times & more. Look how intertesting was the stage from today. Sordo gave more than 1 minute to the leader on each stage.

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lol, how many times Loeb won in the kingdoms of mud - Wales or Argentina?