You're seem very sure of Ogier to M-Sport Andre ;). Others starting to lose hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
If the VW private team does happen Citroen might not look so stupid not letting Ogier into the C3.
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You're seem very sure of Ogier to M-Sport Andre ;). Others starting to lose hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
If the VW private team does happen Citroen might not look so stupid not letting Ogier into the C3.
Teemu / Rallirinki @HartusvuoriWRC · 16m16 minutes ago
Nasser Al-Attiyah confirms to @yleurheilu he is "doing his best" to keep VW in #WRC in form of a private team: http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9336819 …
Latvala and toyota is happening. Cant believe they chose him before Mikkelsen :confused:
It is possible of course that Mikkelsen didn't want to join Toyota. Or it could just be that he wasn't Finnish enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
Latvala is from Finland. Mikkelsen from Norway. So therefore it is quite clear who will drive for the finnish national Team aka ToyotaQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric
Fi(n)nished enough :D
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Originally Posted by Simmi
Lets see what next hours bring to us :) For sure Monte-Carlo starts next weekend for some.
VW's in Monte looking more and more likely...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...r-can-be-found
It’d be great if it becomes real. After so much hard work VW M guys really deserve to get their new car on WRC stages. Fingers crossed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Reading the article I would say Ogier and Latvala (if today's Toyota rumours are true) won´t be driving the VWs, even if things come together.
Which leaves Mikkelsen in prime position to take on the challenge along with Nasser and maybe some others.
Could be interesting.
Nasser supported Neuville's rising start. Maybe he can support now Mikkelsen.
Surely Ogier would be a massive boost to generating the funding? I would guess if it happens it's very likely he'll go there for a year. But no way to tell yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by FAlonso
Good point. Most likely his wage won’t be cheap, but there's no better way to get this deal done than having a 4 time WRC champion along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Great for the Championship with potentially 5 Manufactures involved, but what a bloody merry go round!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Possibly, but even without Ogier you've got to imagine that a low cost Mikkelsen would have a good shot at the Drivers Championship anyway, saving the millions that'd have to go to Ogier. Would the extra funding Ogier might bring outweigh his extra cost? Maybe he'd agree to a cheaper deal if he knows the 2017 Polo is that much better than the Fiesta...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
For the sake of the WRC though, competition wise, I'd still really love to see Ogier go to MSport and Mikkelsen stay with Qatar VW!
For sure the latter!Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I kind of see it from the other perspective - that without Ogier is it really worth all that money from Qatar, Red Bull whoever to resurrect the programme? Why go to all that trouble and then try to cut costs on drivers and potentially not be competitive? This deal would keep a huge amount of his VW colleagues in the WRC so if Ogier is going to take a cut-price deal for any team then it would be this one I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Who says Ogier's salary would need to be externally funded?
VW has a contract with him that they're likely to need to pay him out for, so why not just stick him in the car...?
I think Ogier contract with VW is terminated. This is quote directly from autocar.co.uk article about possible Polo 2017 participation: "However, Durheimer confirmed that four-time world champion Sebastien Ogier's contract with VW had been terminated, and said that if a private team raised enough funds to run the cars it would be able to choose who drove them."
I think the termination of the contract is part of the same process that saw the factory team close down. Not too much to read into that - had to be done eventually.
Ogier with important meeting today.
Tommi don't wait Ogier sign anymore.
Seriously, why it takes so long? I'm getting angry already, lol.
Maybe only tomorrow ;)
Do you mean Tommi can't sign Ogier anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Eric Dobrowski: french translated
The team toyota great racing, no longer believes in the runway Sébastien Ogier, that's what they claimed yesterday in corsica in any case, they were seeing him now at m sport.
i say M-sport definitely now after reading this:
Ogier has been impressed by the M-Sport chief's enthusiasm.
"Malcolm has made it clear it's his priority to work with us and this is something playing in his favour," Ogier said.
"You like to have people who are very clear and very motivated to work with us."
Sebastien Ogier will decide between two options for his World Rally Championship future this week.
https://www.autosport.com/news/repor...-for-2017-seat
Its down to M-sport or vw-qatar-redbull-something then.
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Nice to see confirmation that Ogier has driven the Yaris on gravel and wasn't too much a fan of it on tarmac. Horses mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Interesting about Ogier about the Yaris:
"It was not so good on Tarmac, I agree, but it was better on gravel," he said.
"It was very slippery, so it doesn't help to show the potential, but also in these conditions you can quickly tell what's wrong with the car."
My perception is that Ogier will be closer to Toyota than Ford. Let's wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogef
Their words are clear ...
"I have the option of one or two years of contract ..." "I want a fast car to stimulate me, but stability is also very important ..."
... "Yaris was not so fast on the tarmac ... but it was on the gravel ..." Justifying that the floor on the tarmac was not exactly in the best conditions to vindicate the potentiality in the car, but the problems he felt are easy to correct...
Analyzing the interview at the words of Ogier and not Malcon, I would say that he is closer to Toyota.
He are being polite. From his words definitely Ford!
That's not what he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogef
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Originally Posted by tomhlord
"It was not so good on Tarmac, I agree, but it was better on gravel," he said.
"It was very slippery, so it doesn't help to show the potential, but also in these conditions you can quickly tell what's wrong with the car."
Don´t wait any VW names from Toyota yet, if they give us a name it will be Lappi.
Btw. Volkswagen: Nasser is driving Dakar, who do you think will drive 2nd car in Monte ? (and who is possible 3rd driver?)
If Qatar/RedBull pay, they want to have team championship trophy!
Don´t you think it is weird that Suninen is testing Toyota all the time, but Lappi has never driven any test just one month before Monte? Just saying. I think the contract with Skoda is over, isn´t it? Maybe contract with Skoda is valid till end of the year, but then it sucks.
Okay, André, if you say that with such certainty, it's because you know more than we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Grande abraço!
such a mess this driver moving theme at the moment and this VW private thing...cant wait to get some clarification already but it seems to me that we still have to wait a week.
but all my hopes are for tomorrow.
This potential VW deal will delay everything I think. Right down to the wire I reckon.
No wonder the Toyota is slow on tarmac, as they only started testing properly on that surface 4-6weeks ago it seems. Difficult to understand why....
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