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They are Olivier Quesnel and Sven Smeets leaving VW Motorsport truck in Trier SP
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They are Olivier Quesnel and Sven Smeets leaving VW Motorsport truck in Trier SP
VW is cooperating with Suzuki in some modelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Josti
I wouldn't read to much into that unfortunatly. I suppose people are talking with different teams all the time during rallys so that doesn't have to mean anything for VW and their future Wrc program.Quote:
Originally Posted by General Prim
agree, and both are looking at each other, and waitingQuote:
Originally Posted by Josti
One thing that I just dont understand is why there is now manufacturer interest in the WRC.
Sure, the regs are changing and costs are 'predicted' to be lower, but in the real world any manufacturer wanting to enter any form of motor sport is going to require a huge investment to make it worth while (in terms of competitive results).
Companys such as VW and Toyota, who have good reputations in their previous motor sport endeavors, surely cant afford to go half heartedly into a new market like the WRC. So, IMO, the financial cost differences between before and after the new regs wouldn't being as great as what everyone seems to make out.
Anyone else agree?
So, if thats the case, where has the interest in the WRC really come from?
new regulations so all teams start on almost equal basis...
with the experience ford and citroen have in the current WRC cars creating a car from scratch would require huge budget to even be close to these 2.
Plus the WRC is the 2nd best known motorsport after F1 but the cost to run a team is "free" compared to F1.
News from VW later this year or January:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86288
Nissen talks about it:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86289
Michelin bids for WRC return
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86298
Again uncontrolable costs 'cos next year's mini S2000 starts with 346 000 GBP+VAT (mini WRC costs more).. NZ Morrie Chandler should go home.
FIA is quick this time, final regs out 4 months before 1 jan 2011 ! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by bt52b
Looks like the new boss has of FIA has more of a hart for Rally ... :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Also these set of regs are a BIG change from the previous ones.
Hopefully good times are coming back. :bounce:
From Veikkaaja (finnish betting magasine):
VW:
If they decide to join wrc they will do it with Polo
on 2013
Toyota:
a motorsportdivision will recommend to the board that Toyota should return to rallying. It will be decided
on October. If they join they'd rather use Yaris than Auris.
Mini:
Mats Ostberg is certain that he will drive the new Mini WRC.
According to Motorsportaktuell, Toyota could go to WTCC as well.
http://www.motorsport-aktuell.com/au...t-2744613.html
It could share the same type of motor with rallying.
Nissan wants to return to DTM, but they want, just like BMW, universal rules so they can use the car in other championships too.
Someone might want to tell Mads they've signed Meeke then for 2011. I'd say his chances look slimmer if Bosse decides to help out next season or as many expect PG gets the second seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mise
Yaris is surely too small for regulations?
What's a Mini S2000? I thought that no new homologations of S2000 cars were allowed from 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I think Mads was planning to be a customer driver?Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
I had similar thoughts about the Yaris.
That's in info from Prodrive.. Both versions: S2000 and WRC mini + this time you can buy a car without guaranty and that's 346 000GBP+VAT..Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yes, new S2000 are allowed in 2011 but with 1.6T engine, hence 2 versions of the MiniQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Then what is the difference between an S2000 and a WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
engine(ccm and turbo.. also some bodywork... bigger spoilers and wings in wrc..Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
wrc =1600Turbo
s2000=2000ccm naturally aspirated.. .same as today..
No, all S2000 cars homologated after 1st January 2011 must have also 1.6T engine. Both S2000 and WRC variant of Mini will have same (or almost same) turbo engine.
SuperGT is planning on using the DTM specs in 2015, so Nissan would pretty much have to make a DTM car anyways, if they want to compete in the SuperGT.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
This won't be the current Yaris, as Toyota will release a new one next year. I don't know why you guys are fixated on the current one, as I've posted a link to a test mule that looks a little bit bigger than the current model. This fits inline with Toyota's schedule.
So I repeat my question, what is the difference between a 2011 S2000 and a WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
They have a 2 liter turbo now instead of a 1.6 turbo next year?
Something with electronics also?? Not sure though ;)
It should, in theory be possible to swap a S2000 Fiesta to run under next years WRC rules (1.6T) and I think M-Sport said they'd offer that but it wasn't quite as straightforward as swapping the engines out.
That`s if you want to swap s2k to WRC, but if you want to stay 1.6T, then it should be no problem.
But a WRC is 1.6T too!Quote:
Originally Posted by mm1
FIA regulations clear as mud as usual.
Mini/Prodrive are listing a Mini Super Production car along with the WRC car, any idea what that is?
Like Shakespeare said: That's the question!
Frankly I don't get the difference between Super Production (S2000 with 1.6T engine) and WRC. Obviously there are differences in aerodynamics but what else?
Very bizar news, only on Belgian websites (I wonder IF it is correct?): Renault build an N4 turbocharged Renault Megane:
http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blo...+International
4WD? 2lT? ... ?
There is no 4WD Megáne in stock production. If it's true, it's 2WD car based on Mégane RS.
N4 classe doesn't need to be 4WD. Just needs to have an engine with more than 2000cc capacity (turbo engine in that case)Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Could be R4 or R3T.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
No, it should be just S2000 car with 1.6T engine. Let's call it downgraded WRC.
Did you ask for a bid or where did you get the price? I couldn’t find any information about the Mini on Prodrive’s web site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Send them e-mail for an offer..
Could a 2WD car be made (a lot) lighter than a 4WD gr N? Could be good performance on dry asphalt (like in the Kit Car days!)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
You could make a bank transfer for Ł350K GBP + taxes or click here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
http://www.motoringfile.com/wp-conte...es-package.pdf