Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
The man was simply perfect, whether you want to admit it or not. He dominated on every surface on multiple occasions. He was, is and will continue to be a great ambassador for Citroen.
He's not the Messiah ... but he has been the dominant driver of this generation and sublime to watch when at the top of his game.
But not 'perfect'. While never stooping to the sort of behaviour that prevents Michael Schumacher being regarded as 'perfect', Loeb did benefit from the preferred status on occasions when team mates were quicker as Sordo was in Spain 2009. A fair fight to the finish in 2011 might have left Citroen with a WRC future right now, even if it meant that Loeb had ended with 7 or 8 titles.
I wish him every success in WTCC and count it one of the great sporting moments to have seen him on the stages in the past 6 years I've been following rallying again.
Just to clear up a point about age - if Loeb still had the desire to compete I'm sure he could. Fangio only won the first of his 5 world championships at age 40 in an era when GP was more physically demanding than modern WRC.
Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
I would rather say he made fun of Ogier this year, not to mention others.
No, this has never been Loeb's ambition, and rather he didn't achieve such thing.
EDIT: I don't know if you noticed, but he was the first one to congratulate Ogier for the title ;)
Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
Just to clear up a point about age - if Loeb still had the desire to compete I'm sure he could. Fangio only won the first of his 5 world championships at age 40 in an era when GP was more physically demanding than modern WRC.
LOL... Goodnight.
Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
great drive by Ogier this rally and congrats on his title
dani sordo drove a good rally too
JML did well to keep it together and drove well in this rally...i hope he can repeat this in the future in more rallies
Neuville, this guy has some great potential and is really coming into his own, i hope he continues to work on his driving. next year he can do great things once he stays focused
Loeb and Elena, wow what a team over the years, i'm so glad to have been able to watch them. i'm a little disappointed he rolled out in this rally, but honestly he's has done so much in his WRC career that it makes little difference, and i cant fault him for trying to win in such a close battle. i'm a long time fan and i wish him all the best in his future endeavors. i applaud Elena too, cause i know sometimes co-drivers get left out, and he was their throughout. great memories
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I have seen about 35 times some WRC rally and about 150 times some national rally. This time, in rally Alsace, is the only time I wanted to leave before it ended. The spectacle was so bad that, if Alsace was not so nice as a place, I would have cried about the money I spent. The marshals and the policemen gathered all spectators in crowded areas where you could see only boring turns of 2nd or 3rd gear. The modern WRC cars with the modern tyres turn on wet tarmac like F1, and if this continues like this I doubt that there will be spectators in the future. Spectators were less than all other WRC rallies I have been in Europe (Spain, Germany, Italy and Alsace 2011) and, most important, not even one of them seemed interested, not to mention enthused, about what he saw. Except of some 2WD cars, like Gilbert, Chardonnet, Suarez, Lemes and some young guys in Twingos, there was absolutely no spectacle worthy a penny.
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driving styles have changed so much over the years now you don't see cars sliding or pendulums and etc.
spectators want to see car's sliding and jumping on the stages, so FIA should re-think all again now cars prepared by VW, M-SPORT, CITROEN & Hyundai (soon) they all are so so similar in characteristics so FIA should open regulations a bit more so that there is variation all around.
Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by NxOxT
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
Just to clear up a point about age - if Loeb still had the desire to compete I'm sure he could. Fangio only won the first of his 5 world championships at age 40 in an era when GP was more physically demanding than modern WRC.
LOL... Goodnight.
Watch how you quote, I didn't say that :)
Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by scn
I have seen about 35 times some WRC rally and about 150 times some national rally. This time, in rally Alsace, is the only time I wanted to leave before it ended. The spectacle was so bad that, if Alsace was not so nice as a place, I would have cried about the money I spent. The marshals and the policemen gathered all spectators in crowded areas where you could see only boring turns of 2nd or 3rd gear. The modern WRC cars with the modern tyres turn on wet tarmac like F1, and if this continues like this I doubt that there will be spectators in the future. Spectators were less than all other WRC rallies I have been in Europe (Spain, Germany, Italy and Alsace 2011) and, most important, not even one of them seemed interested, not to mention enthused, about what he saw. Except of some 2WD cars, like Gilbert, Chardonnet, Suarez, Lemes and some young guys in Twingos, there was absolutely no spectacle worthy a penny.
I share you view. There are more and more restrictions for spectators justified by "safety" or other nonsens. Zones are set up for organiser convinience with no concern about spectators. Going to some rallies is purely waste of money and after 20-25 cars is nothing to watch, those guys drive like taxi drivers. Just wondering if rally is addressed to spectator anymore, potential customer of many drivers sponsor. I think is getting worse and worse, stages with only 1-2 access roads or even with no access, car parks miles away, town/castle stages, timetable doesn't allow you to see more than 2 stages a day. Not mention about spectators who want to take nice pics, loads of obstacles, tapes, poles, nets and so on.
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Re: Rallye France Alsace 2013
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Originally Posted by Bartek
http://instagram.com/p/fI-TDWFbwt/ Woman in background is Seb wife?
Yes she is.
