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Oh yeah. If anyone isn't convinced between car differences, this tells it all. Citroen brake points are later and shorter, which allows the drivers to develop higher speed, looks like their brakes are much more effective than Ford ones. Mini though is lot further behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaLuigi
Hence to be competitive the Ford drivers are on the limit (no margin for error) with greater levels of concentration required. That JML has shown that he is capable of beating Loeb on gravel and Hirvonen anywhere should be remembered.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
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Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Me too - Loeb and Elena, just the very best :)
That proves nothing. Only the first spot shows big differences and why is a question. We don't know which tyre compound they had, how far in stage it was etc. There is little to invent with brakes under WRC rules. I think that if there is some major difference in brake effectiveness it's more in differential and suspension settings than in brakes itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I understand the different reasons, but I think all top drivers drove with same tyres almost all event and only Ford complaint about their brakes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
EDIT: As for not much to do with brakes - aren't disk diameters and brake pads totally different for tarmac and gravel rallies?
All the programmes are on Speed Channel in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Yes but this have to do mainly with brake cooling and fade in long stages and not the absolute performance. I wouldn't imagine that there are massive differences in performance, with brand new tyres of same compound. Also the drivers' abilities are very important!Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Then again some----me---might say that the major difference is the person operation the brakes..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It really hardly takes much hard thinking to mash the gas full and hold it (rather it takes suspension of thinking).
Doesn't REALLY strain the brain to remember how to wiggle the stick to shift gears..
It seems---for my extreeeeeeeeeemmmely limited experience----the most judgement related thing that occurs inside the car--(to contrast what happens on the stands in service or back at the builders' HQ)---is the judgement on when to brake, and how vigorously...that that almost alone is a decision internal to the driver's brain.
Of course what do i know? Just because it was just systematic hours and hours of training and concentrating just on braking was what the difference was between me being a local guy to getting paid to drive all over Western Europe and bang my head into the dirt.
Not all applications of brakes---the decision part---were created equally..
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Originally Posted by René