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Sordo had to incentive to switch codriver, I hope he has a real incentive to switch car too. I always felt Sordo should be a Ford-man than Citroen. Okay, he might not become the lead driver at Ford, but at least Wilson might allow him to win a tarmac rally, unlike at Citroen. However, I do expect Quesnel to allow Sordo to take Spain win this time to appease him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
LATVALA IN CROATIA!!!
Photos here..
http://desno4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=69&start=75
Sordo can`t win tarmac rally in Ford becouse there are 2 Sebastiens in Citroen which much faster car now and it will be next year 99% for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmx
maybe so, but one could get an idea about how much it is up to the car and how much to the driver, after all Sordo is not far behind Loeb on tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarac330d
This was inevitableQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
I really doubt Citroen will lose too many nights worrying if Sordo signs
Same here, but I dont think he will get a works seat at Ford, he should have left earlier, he has dont a not so good season this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
hmmm i wouldn't say that....those guaranteed points on tarmac events are surely a boost for every manufacturer going for the title... And when Loeb retires eventually in 2-3 years then who will bring those guaranteed points ?Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
On Gravel all the first class drivers are almost equal....but on tarmac Sordo is a guarantee you cannot afford to miss. gravel drivers are easy to find but on tarmac is harder to find soeone that can make the difference.
Both teams i think need sordo to be official only on tarmac so it comes to the fact who offers best conditions.
Plus the spanish market is vital for every manufacturer....
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Originally Posted by Tomi
But you forget that due to team orders Sordo has never been allowed to perform at his best, he really should seriously consider swapping teams as he must know that he will never be allowed to win under the citroen banner, regardless of which citroen team he is in.
Seb junior is different, after all he is french.
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Originally Posted by Camelopard
same goes in every team he will go...latvala also did not allowed to win against hirvonen. Sordo is good for second fidle and first on tarmac..now in ford he could gain 1st spot since both hirvonen and latvala are very easy targets to be faster (latvala is fast but not mentaly there yet)...he was unlucky and was in team that had the best driver ever in the sport as No1...everyone would have the same treatment in any team.
This is nonsense. Stop saying it!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
yes indeed nonsense...latvala was on a leash NOT ALLOWED to win for the most rallies, and when hirvonen lost every chance for a title Latvala suddenly became faster...how you explain that ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
2nd drivers are called 2nd for reason
Really? How so? It's an economic mess and they already buy Ford and Citroen a lot so that makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Economic mess or not they are a market of 45 million people....and the fact that they buy fords and citroens a lot makes it even bigger attraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Spain can't offer new and big sponsors to the WRC, for the moment. You know, sponsors like TELEFONICA or REPSOL are not investing in rallying anymore at a world level...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Can anyone confirm that MINI will begin testing in Spain (near Huelva, Andalucia) at the end of September or early in October?
I know they will test in spain in september. I don't know exact date, nor location.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
It’s been said that Botín, Banco Santander’s president, got personally interested in Dani’s future. That’s a new and very big Spanish sponsor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
I am evil Homer, Spain is a big market for Citröen and Dani helps to sell cars as well as Carlos Sainz did. Though they might be the actual top seller here, they might not want to lose, for example, 5000 cars/year, which is a big amount of money.
Santander doesn't have the money to be throiwng around given it's massive exposure to the property market (quite aside from ploughing so much cash to Alonso and Ferrari).
I doubt Sordo would sell enough cars to justify Citroen giving him more money if Ford came up with a decent offer. I don't doubt he sells cars but he's no Sainz in terms of marketability.
It would be good if true, next year when they only have to pay 1 F1 drivers salary, they should have easily the cash to sponsor 1 rallydriver.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino makinen
Banco Santander wouldn't be a "new" sponsor, they've been supporting Dani since 2006. In this case they would just give the last push... but rumours are rumours.
daddy pays for little son to get some exposure....
http://www.wrc.com/news/wilson-confi...011/?fid=13556
don't worry little slowboy if sobart cannot help daddy will take care of everything wasting some more money from the development to keep the kid happy.
The mini should have had its first test in the sweet lamb complex in wales this week but the engine is not yet in the car ,so hopefully it will be ready to go in Spain next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
sounds good! take a Fabia S2000 develop it into a WRC 1600, put the shell of a Sciroco on, and Voila! Shouldnt be that expensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Mise
and get excluded by the FIA for homologation issues....Quote:
Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
VW might share the same engine as Skoda, but thats about it. I'm not sure if VW can be a successful WRC team, but maybe I've drank some anti VW koolaid. The Polo S1600 wasn't all that successful and same with the Golf IV kit car.
Toyota would likely be better than VW, as they do rally properly, so would Renault.
Recources, organized, successful (Dakar), ambitious. I'd say they're perfect for (future) WRC. Those Polo and Golf efforts were never fully works supported and were actually decent cars in there respective classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2003
If VW joins, likely there's more chance that Toyota will too, or vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2003
It would be great news if VW would join WRC. But have to remember that nothing will happen short term, the guy from VW said that 2013 or 2014 is the possible timetable. And if they join just have to hope it's 100 % VW supported team, not some independent mediocre hobby team.
MN reported that the new WRC 2011 rules are due to be sent out this week and confirmed that they are due to be ratified next month, probably Sept 8th at the WMSC.
If Suzuki comes back, then they will suck at the WRC, and this will never change. The Suzuki S1600 wasn't that good IMO, and this is with works involvement. I would love to see Renault ditch F1, and go rallying. I think Renault is the manufacturer that could beat Citroen. Renault is the company that always does rally properly, when they do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
Hehe, as NOT says this would not be allowed as the Scirocco and Fabia do not share the same chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
It would seem a bit of a shame to not develop the Fabia into a 1.6T car though as it still seems to be the best overall S2000 car at the moment.
I dont agree about that. The Ignis back in 2003 was awsome, better than any other S1600 car! You need better argu8ments for saying that Suzuki will suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2003
hmmm i think the reason its the best is because is the only car having full factory support and also a solid development plan...i think once the big boys are involved PSA and MS-Sport and probably Toyota the fabia will start to trail...to be honest though i wouldn't like to see that since i like the skoda team a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
see that..
the picture is too blurry....
And what has Suzuki to do with VW? I don't get your argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2003
Renault produced good rallycars, but with the exception of the Alpine effort, they've never fully commited to the sport. I think they'll stick to F1 for now.
Yeah and why would they leave F1 when it seems to go fairly well there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti