Congratulations to Thierry, well deserved!!
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Congratulations to Thierry, well deserved!!
Huge drive by Ogier, Toyota is champion
Well done Elfyn and Toyota for manufacturer title
So again Neuville did all by himself till the end. They really need to find consistent drivers for manufacturer titles.
Last win for Evans was last years Japan and now he does it again over a year.
Congrats to all the winners this season!
Bring on the next season with better points system (except super Sunday) and Kalle back in the game full time!
Yeah he is a god and Tänak is a failure like you said in a post which you deleted later ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
What an end,congrats to Neuville and Toyota.2025 loading..
Champions! So happy for Thierry and Martijn. After Bruno Thiry, Freddy Loix and François Duval it's the Belgian from the East Cantons that gets it.
And suddenly our mainstream media discovers rallysport. 🙂
Really nice to see all rivals together at the finish as well. You won't see that in a lot of sports.
Sorry but the fact and the proves are out there that only one who are capable of doing the job is Sordo. Tanak really can't get a break. I think he really was hungry for that driver title and screw it up completely the manufacturer title and then the pressure falls on even more uncosistent Mikkelsen who again made a crucial mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I mentioned of Neuville being god, because seems many guys here still don't understand that the team is build around him, all that spins there is around him. And the most that happened, theyy achieved was because of him. The closest to him is Sordo and no one else. Sorry, but it's true. It was proven once again today.
i think everyone knows here that the team is built around him, no surprises there but but i dont agree at all with your other facts that Sordo is closest to him, if he would be then they wouldnt have hired Tänak and pushed Sordo to do whole season. He is a very good 3rd driver but not even second.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
IMO you are going over the top with the praise (he deserves every praise for this season) here like Thierry has won a title every season now and carried the team alone. He has had also plenty of occasions where he has screwed his own chances and also teams in the past, not only on one occasion. (Remember last round of 2020 in Monza? where he binned and Tänak/Sordo claimed the Manu title)
By your logic Thierry was also failure today cause he didnt win the power stage? But we know it isnt true
Tänak and Neuville have been together in Hyundai for 4 seasons now
Out of 4 Tänak has finished ahead of Thierry in 2 occasions and now Thierry also 2, while taking the bigger crown becoming a champion. So before this season it was 2-1 to Tänak but i didnt see you comment then that the others are failure who have driven with Hyundai.
& the opposite to 2019-2020, Hyundai taking the drivers' title & Toyota the Manufacturers' crown.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I calculated the old system (2023) with this year final results and it is confirmed that Neuville would still take the title.
Neuville |211
Evans |194
Tanak |176
Ogier |171
Fourmaux |136
Rovanpera|117
Katsuta |94
Munster |50
Sordo |43
Lappi |31
Mikkelsen |29
2023 point sstem
->18, 15, 13, 10, 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 - saturday standings (must finish the rally to score)
->7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - sunday standings
->5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - power stage standings
Imagine now if Neuville would go on & sign for Toyota for 2025, that would be funny...In all seriousness though, I can't wait for 2025 to arrive, 2 months 'till Monte-Carlo...
Interesting to note that both Evans and Tanaks gap to Neuville is less compared to this years system.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Elfyn gets a win and Sami gets the championship. Not a bad rally for me. :)
Congratulations to Thierry and Martijn
https://images.vrt.be/width1280/2024...760b6853d5.jpg
SS18: Mikkelsen is the first in and has some honest and sincere congratulations for his team-mate and friend, 2024 WRC champion, Thierry Neuville. Very happy for [Neuville], well deserved. Very happy for him."
Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
calculate the old old system before Power stage!
Evans 141
Neuville 138
Ogier 120
Tanak 114
...
Congat. Neuville-Waydaeghe, They Deserved Title!
These calculations don’t make sense at all. How come they had so much less points than overall in the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by ik1911
Yeah but probaly many of them wouldn't push on sunday at all, so it's quite irrevelant. I did it just to compare that it seems they get it right with that points. I did it also for 2025 and it looks again, that Neuville would win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Neuville |250
Evans |225
Tanak |215
Ogier |197
Fourmaux |154
Katsuta |108
Rovanpera|100
2025 point system
->25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 - overall
->5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - sunday standings
->5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - power stage standings
Neuville went flat out in Monte this year beating Ogier in his own garden and taking the full 30 points. But the real high point of the season was on Saturday of the Croation Rally when he Neuville did one of his finest drives when Huyndai made the wrong tire choice, especially during SS14: Neuville A phenomenal run from Thierry Neuville, who goes quickest in the rain on SS14. He retakes the rally lead and goes 3.5sec quicker than Toyota's Sébastien Ogier."I don't know, I went flat out. When we found out there could be rain at the end, we just went flat out. It looks like we didn't have the optimal [tyre] choice so far, but we're going to try hard."Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Congrats to Thierry, I know he gets some flak, but for me he deserves to have WC against his name.
Pretty cool that everything went down to the last stage of the last rally for the constructors championship. The super Sunday thing does do some good, I just wish the rally win was more valuable in isolation.
Wait what? This has been confirmed for 25?Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
I really think it should be Tänak to be feeling sorry because he not only lost the more than ever important victory today in Toyota's own backgarden but also the constructor championship + there were some high exec delegation from Huyndai HQ in Japan at the rally to discuss a possible 4th car for Huyndai next year ...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Sorry not yet, I forgot to mentioned that it's just to compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I kinda have a feeling it will be confirmed since really no one likes the current system. And that one would actually be more understandable. All they do is just to constantly also showing how the manufacturer championship is counted, because that one is even more nightmare to count.
They should still do it (if they really intend to leave as manufacturer at the end of season), so it would be a fair goodbye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow
Sad for Tänak, a bit unlucky this season but also many many unforgivable mistakes. And genuinely happy for Neuville, well deserved. I also like his attitude in the recent years, never blames the car or the team.
All the Teams have something to celebrate this year - Hyundai with Neuville WDC, Toyota with the Manus Title and M-Sport with Fourmaux's multiple podiums.
At least this rewards their commitment to the WRC despite all its faults and cost.
Points system comparison (full and detailed) if anyone interested
https://i.postimg.cc/K8g5nX3Z/points-all.jpg
Congrats to Neuville for the Championship.
Fully deserved fair and square!
Did Tanak explained in Estonian media his crash?
He said the same as to dirtfish, the place surprised him by being so slippery.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Haven’t seen him so down for a while or maybe never, you can tell he is so embarrassed
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EqEWyKHQx/
Crazy this...
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Oohhhh dear!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Is this an error from the gravel crew?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But as it turned out he effectively lost them the Manus with his off on SS5 and mistake on the PS. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Dirtfish analysis of Tanak crash...
https://youtu.be/OBoQ6j3R_Mg?si=_1AvHxGCeo05zWsN
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak...r-japan-crash/
Aside from the reasons for the crash, after looking at the replay I am very impressed with the safety engineering of the cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
scary to see heikki's onboard, flying in the direction of ott's car.
really cool video by colin/dirtfish. i really like their coverage and analysis tbf.
i just hate the way they keep "milking content" during the week (tho i understand they gotta keep the clicks coming to make $). ogier says one thing - they report that - they release a video of him saying that - they writte a bad article about 'what does ogier meant when he said that' - then another bad article on 'repercussion of what seb said' - then another article with nothing, just a clikcbait...
haha
It was three major things that they lost. Mikkelsen's off on SS5. Ott's off on SS17, and again Mikkelsen's excursion into those trees. I don't know if it's Neuville's technical issues blame or not, don't have all that knowledge on that side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If Mikkelsen didn't made that mistake at the PS, the points would still be equal 560 both (if we assume he would be 2nd/3rd). What would they do then? Imagine if FIA then decided to add extra small event to carry that title there and give the world even greater story, than it was.
Don't know, but this year many drivers did unthinkable at the last day of rallying, even when they could go safe. So many times. Really prove that sentence: it's not over until it's not over. Even Latvala did admit he was so nervous till the last centimeter of Elfyn to the finish line.
* https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1860667454956994621 - Kovalainen onboard from the crash
* https://x.com/paddocknews/status/1860668070533980241 - Järveoja was taking something from their car when Kovalainen landed there. Bad things were not that far away.
(edit: probably both videos were already posted)
Sucks for Ott. This is the thing that makes you cringe in 20 years when you randomly remember it in bed
My God! Luckily no one got hurt, scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
That is why you should have one the drivers there to warn cars that come after you, or at least put the warning triangle thereQuote:
Originally Posted by meh