Rovanperä Is going to take this one, in the rain he shines. Really hope his rivals can stop him but seems unlikely really.
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Rovanperä Is going to take this one, in the rain he shines. Really hope his rivals can stop him but seems unlikely really.
At least Breen can not be their 1st driver anymore if he is not able to deliver results.
OttQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
He doesn't get any rain compared to Lappi and Tänak :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Do you think that M-Sport can outbid Hyundai? Or do you mean Ott is willing to take pay cut to drive for a team with less resources?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Of course, MSport will make a super team of Loeb, Ogier and Tanak next year, you read it here first! /sarcasmQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Atm I don't even think the Puma is on the same level as i20 and Hyundai has resources which M-Sport doesn't have. It's not a good moveQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
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I'd rather think of Evans coming back to M-Sport. More than ever he seems to be unhappy and anonymous at Toyota and is totally overshadowed this year by that youngster. Financially both Evans and M-Sport have in common Red Bull sponsorshipQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
Yes, this was not a serious statement from me. But the drivers situation at M-Sport is very weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow
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Well its his choice. I think his words tell the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Is the drivers situation with Toyota any better? They have hands down the best car this year but apart from Rovanperä and occassionally Ogier I see no one really shine. Lappi blew his big chance in Sardegna and seems to be missing out again in Finland committing too much errorsQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
For a moment, let's assume this to be a serious alternative. If Tanak aims to re-do what Ogier did, to succeed this scheme would need Malcolm to pay Ott's salary from outside of team's budget (extra sponsorship, Malcolm's own funds, pay cut or whatever). Because if this doesn't happen, Ott's salary would tax team's budget to a degree that might endanger development and testing. Ott and Breen are in opposite ends of salary band, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Tänak stage win by 1.3s, crazy driving
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow
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i have rarely seen neuville so slow. except for the sss, 6th is his best stage result until now.
Finland was never his happy hunting ground so…no surprises there.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Rovanpera gained back 9sec in morning loop. Lets see what happens in afternoon. Crazy battle up front, you can tell all of four guys are pushing like crazy.
Disappointed in Breen. These and Estonia fast flowing roads was his rallies... I dont know, I somehow feel there is something behind the scenes. Maybe he doesnt feel comfortable with the car or M-Sport pressures him too much for immediate results. Last couple of rallies he seems completely "off".
Small mistakes by Breen but a lot of pure bad luck happens too.
Rovanpera has the opposite - when he goes slightly off he gets away with it.
It's not a matter of luck, it's down to pure skills and instinctsQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Remember how these two rallies were supposed to fit Breen really well and he was told to "throw caution to the wind"? It's a disastrous season for him and the team.
Of course M-Sport was not testing in Finland and it was not helping, but Breen must handle the pressure if he wants to continue to drive on the top level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead
Yes and seeing Milliner mad at him is like, but you told him to go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Didn't he say he would never do that ever again? However, that's the only solution I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Rovanpera got away with the hit on the SSS in Estonia and going off the road today. He said himself he was lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
If you make a mistake there is an element of luck if there's a rock there or not.
The bottom line is that Ford has to pay for a top driver if they (MSport) want to seriously compete with the might of Toyota & Hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
But why is that every time Ogier, Rovanperä and few other top of the top drivers escape and the 2nd tier drivers usually get cought out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If it was the other way round you could still ask the same question. This helps to define top and 2nd tier drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Top tier: Loeb, Ogier, RovanperäQuote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
2nd tier: Tänak, Evans, Neuville
3rd tier: Lappi, Breen, Sordo
Ford Puma tier: the rest
As you can see, this is not that hard
Yep, quite a crap reaction. Tell him openly to push then be angry when he crashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
At the same time Fourmaux crashes out on second stage and Milliner says only that it was a shame...
I think the difference is how much they push their luck. The likes of Loeb, Ogier or Rovanpera make fewer mistakes and when they do and get lucky it's quite obvious and seems unfair. The others make more mistakes, so the chance that they will find a big rock increases and eventually it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Then there is also the theory that some supernatural rally luck moves from Loeb to Ogier to Rovanpera. We can obviously see the first two are not lucky anymore this year :P
It seems to be quite hard, you got it wrong by calling 2019 World Champion a second tier driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hüttünen
So Rovanperä isn't top tier _atm_? I'd say, he is exactly that. Of course things can change in the future, like with Tänak: next car after title isn't really fitting to your driving style and the next after that fits nobody basically.
Tänak is truly very fast on all surfaces and it's a shame the car is what it is. He also very rarely goes off nowadays. Usually it's punctures that drop him down the leaderboard. On the other hand, he couldn't get the i20 WRC to go well on tarmac (which hardly anybody else did either besides Neuville) so he ain't "all mighty".
Rovanperä ain't god either but he has already found the way to drive Rally 1 Yaris very fast without big risks. Something Evans hasn't been able to do. Kalle was also very fast to get the feeling with the 2017 cars on all surfaces. Seeing Rovanperä and Tänak on Toyota would be super interesting (except that Toyota would probably win every rally...). One can only dream... of course it would be interesting to see Neuville somewhere else than Hyundai as well. Could he take some kind of a next step with Toyota like Evans did back in 2020 and leave the mistakes to a minimum?
So with current full time drivers I'd say it's Rovanperä & Tänak as tier 1, Evans dropped to tier 2 with Rally 1 cars and Neuville is there with him. Breen just doesn't make it, unfortunately, he is tier 3. Then rest of the Fords are tier 4.
Catching up with Breen incident stage this morning I see Katsuta had THREE mistakes on that stage and got away with them all ...
c'mon, put that in context.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
m-sport hired breen to get podiums. breen did first part of season cautious because of making mileage, lack of some rally experience, and so on. when millener ask for a push he doesn't mean win or bin. he mean it's time to get up aq notch and deliver podiums or podium-like performances.
remember there was people suggesting it was on same tier (or better) than tanak & neuville...
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Originally Posted by WRCStan
^ Pre-event PR hypeQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
“I understand that he’s trying to get the positions we want to see, but retirements are 10 times worse than anything else. So it’s frustrating.”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/breen...stake-m-sport/
^ On-event reality
What an insane battle at the front ! Just pray the Hyundai doesn't let Tanak down eventually.
Indeed a great fight, so close margins!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And most importantly what a driving from top guys! Pure rallying heaven at the moment
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I think Millener's communication as of late (this season) has been sometimes very counterproductive to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan