You don't build a brand new large motorsport facility if you don't have some serious long time plans. Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
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You don't build a brand new large motorsport facility if you don't have some serious long time plans. Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl...kodiaq-wrc.jpg
maybe this will be real after all.
Oh please, not that hideous SUV (in racing context, apart from Dakar).
You don't know what types of cars will be used in years, my bet is on SUV-s. On the roads there are more and more thee things. So on marketing point is total sense. Yes it's stupid but hey stupid is also electric technology but it can't be avoided if the world will turn into that direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
If they will come back that would be awesome, no matter what car they will be using. What matters is that there will be at least 3 new seats available (if everyone remains into the game). And (if) this will happen, Pontus, stay in the team!
Well, there were ideas about Mondeo, Passat, C5 and I40 WRC a few years ago...luckily they were abondened. SUVs are popular yes, but they sell themselves hopefully. In rally-mode, especially on tarmac, they would look really silly, like a small estate (another hard thing to bring that car down).
When is a new or facelifted Fabia due?
Love the idea of comeback to segment D. Big cars
FYI some of the biggest cars of it's era...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Audi Qattro S1 4,24 m
Mercedes SLC450 4,75 m
Focus WRC 06 4,36 m
Octavia WRC 4,51 m
Now modern stock cars of seg. D...
Opel Insignia 4,90 m
Ford Mondeo 4,87
Škoda Superb 4,86 m
Do You really want those huge things which are about as nimble as the London bus to compete on stages? Also consider that many of those cars are of about same width in stock configuration as the WRC limit or even wider...
Biggest, more balance to turn :)
But trickier in tight sections!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I was thinking around this when it was indicated that Tidemand would maybe stay at Skoda. Polo WRC or Fabia WRC, same, same. Would be fun and interesting!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
“soon I hope we can announce Ford as the fourth (manufacter), but I don’t have the power to do that!”
https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...atisfying-yet/
interesting punctuation (or lack of it), I would assume there's more emphasis on the words "I hope".Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Ford Performance M-Sport WRT sounds good
"Sometimes I have the feeling French people don’t realise this and it becomes normal that the French is winning".
Lol this man has a big problem with how people see him.
Don't worry Seb we are all aware you are a great driver. Give your ego a break sometimes.
I think there's a point, especially myself being a Finn, we were used to winning all the time and now we're outragous for not being able to even get to the top 3, although we should be happy for still having the second most championships.
I was thinking around this when it was indicated that Tidemand would maybe stay at Skoda. Polo WRC or Fabia WRC, same, same. Would be fun and interesting!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
For sure Skoda plans to start new project. That´s undisputable. So now just fingers crossed for WRC. All other possibilities (Dakar, WTCC, TCR) are weird.
It makes sense logically doesn't it. When VW Motorsport withdrew, it was forced upon them from the board to save face following dieselgate. They have developed the Polo R5 which now sits along side the Fabia R5 but no WRC team but to me, its clear that the VAG group want a team in the WRC. Now with Tidemand staying at Skoda "for now" as he said it strengthens my belief that there will be a VAG team back in the WRC by 2020. Question is, will it be VW or Skoda?
I think he said that frenchs don’t give those dominance the right credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Well, to me it sounded like Tidemand is going to change colors before the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arwel Davies
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Pontus Tidemand is all set to continue the outstanding cooperation with SKODA Motorsport and begins 2018 behind the wheel of their unbeatable Fabia R5.
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I’m happy and grateful to continue a while longer as a works driver for SKODA
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Pontus and his co-driver Jonas Andersson start their 2018 season together with the Czech team.
http://www.pontustidemand.se/tideman...es-with-skoda/Quote:
We are working hard on the next step so we will see what happens during the upcoming year, but for now we are fully focused on the winter season.
but yeah, I may be reading into it...
They'll need a bigger car to fit that name on it ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
He will probably do events in the Polo R5 when it's ready.
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My thoughts exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Problem is that the French don't care about Ogier. They don't like him at all. Loeb is still their god.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
1. Ogier gone against Loeb
2. He don’t drives french make
I'm partly French but I don't get that. They are only happy if it's a French driver in a French car. I think that's still the biggest reason Citroen turned down Mikkelsen and are holding on to Lefebvre eventhough he's clearly not delivering.
Guy Fréquelin should be the real hero for French rallying. Developing a great car while cultivating great local talent is something I don't think any other team has managed to do.
Where will this new facility be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Shame to leave the old traditional premises on the one hand but it was rather small.
About Lefebvre is very very plausible, but Citroen need more/better scouts, while another French guy, Camilli driving for M-Sport. Malcolm believed in him, while Citroen doesn't, even he is French.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
I believe Mikkelsen just got a better offer from Hyundai, he was talking to them all along and almost joined the team in the spring when he did that test. Also, Hyundai being a better car must have affected his choice, as did the offer to let him drive already the three last events of the season and a full 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Someone here once said that Camilli is at M-Sport because he brings funds from some French sport federation. I really hope he doesn't play a part in M-Sport's third WRC car. He is so mediocre at best. Even in the WRC2 he got usually beaten by much younger drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
Well fair enough but Citroen's management was surely aware of that. Hyundai is a much more competitive package so they should've known that they need to put in a very juicy offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Seems like everyone knows always something about Camilli's fundings and every time it's a different story. The latest rumor I heard was that he's struggling to get a budget for Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
But in the end he got more WRC2 points than all the younger drivers except Tidemand...he surely improved towards the end of the season, getting many good drives where he wasn't going for WRC2 points (Sardegna, Finland and Catalunya).Quote:
I really hope he doesn't play a part in M-Sport's third WRC car. He is so mediocre at best. Even in the WRC2 he got usually beaten by much younger drivers.
It's actually interesting that the biggest screw ups he made were in Monte Carlo and Tour de Corse, which everyone expects to be his strongest rallies
Agreed but I think there is a much better driver and infinatly more potential in Suninen. It would also be wise to give him a lot of seat time to make an impression on having faith in him. Then there is Østberg who I think is far more solid and already has a lot of experience in the '17 spec Fiesta. I guess there is an argument for giving Camilli a run out in Monte, Corsica, Germany and Spain as asphalt are the weakpoints of both Suninen and Østberg. But even then I suggest giving Teemu a fourth car would be wise as he needs to get experience there eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
All this speculation over a third M-Sport car. Who has the most potential, who did the best in WRC2. For the third car, whoever finds the biggest sponsor, gets the drive. Simple.
I agree as well, but I always want to set the facts straight :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
When Østberg announced a while ago he might be a part of a works team I instantly thought of him being a replacement to Ogier in case of Ogier would retire, and my theory seems confirmed now that he's planning on a WRC2 campaign.Quote:
Then there is Østberg
Not all that simple, but still a major part in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
A shame. Ogier would need to win a title in a Citroen for them to care.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I'd like to see Camilli get a chance in the '17 car, just to see how he has progressed like you say. He's definitely on a decent level. Behind Suninen and Tidemand he's the guy I'd like to see in the car. Again though I think his contract with M-Sport ends Dec 31st - so they aren't obligated to run him.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
https://rallysportmag.com/shared-wrc...-m-sport-2018/Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
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According to Millener, Eric Camilli is odds on to compete at the sport’s top level as well – probably alongside Suninen in a shared car.
He explained that the team at M-Sport have already put two years into Camilli, and do not want the time and money spent to go to waste.