Latvala is in the WRC since forever if you still haven't figured out how mentally fragile is by now i think you have more serious problems than depression to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
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Latvala is in the WRC since forever if you still haven't figured out how mentally fragile is by now i think you have more serious problems than depression to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Where is this said?Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Nowhere. Latvala, as a true rallyman, would a) never say something as stupid and b) hardly even think like that himself. It's all made out of one interview in which JML said that it can be hard for Tänak to get familiar with Yaris. Which is completely true.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I was saying that I'd be super disappointed if Latvala cracks like at VW again.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Don't think you understood what I said, nor the joke behind it. Potato dog...
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https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-toyota-leaderQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
While I will admit that I paraphrase him, his subtext is this is my team, I rule here. Also, he says Tanak will have to adapt so if Tanak is has more points at the end of the year he will have to admit that he made a mess of it.
Remember his moaning at VW? If Tanak is gonna be faster he'll have a nervous breakdown. The only time he looked halfway happy was when Hirvonen was his teammate. They were level in their abilities and Loeb's might was untouchable. Eversince it has been bold claims and excuses from him.
Never paraphrase a Finn. Never.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
The link you provided doesn't back your claim up in any way.
That's why I said the subtext suggests he is the clear number one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Are you seriously telling me you don't get a passive-aggressive sentiment from his statements?
Besides, I've been to Finland a number of times. Lovely place, lovely people but never have I ever heard anyone tell me not to paraphrase a Finn. What's the backstory of that?
Oh yes. 100% serious. David Evans has written the story in a way it gets clicked (and I'm not blaming him, that's just the name of the game). I'm quite sure I know what JML meant, and that's just that it can be hard for Tänak to get familiar (and familiar in this context means the ability to grab the final 0,01s/km vs. competitors) with the Yaris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Finns usually speak their minds, there's no need to paraphrase or read between the lines. But don't take it too seriously, that was just me after few beers combined with a hard week at the office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Both JML and Tanak have been in the game for a long time. I think everyone knows that there really isn’t any superiority in this team when it comes to Latvala and Tanak. This is why everyone was yapping about how Tommi will work with two top winning drivers.
Will it be tense in the team? Hell yeah! Will JML and Tanak have issues ? You better believe it. JML will speak his feelings and Ott will say “basically we had problems”. They’re both polar opposites which is great for the team and all of us. This is what makes WRC great. When Ogier was king it was boring to watch honestly. Everyone knew they could not compete so they all lacked a bit of passion. The new cars are like Viagra for old dudes who haven’t popped a boner for years. They feel rejuvenated. Ready to win and the passion and energy is felt by the fans too. Okay maybe not the best explanation of example but you get what I’m trying to say!
Let’s be honest here, we’re not talking about little children. These guys are the top echelon of the Motorsport world.
This will also help Lappi immensely. Heck he might even do better since he’s the guy with zero pressure :).
Enjoy the rally. If you have to quit “watching” because JML is going to act out go watch badminton or chess
You must know a different Latvala than I do. When did he moan or make bold claims at VW? The only time I genuinely remember he moaned was when he got stuck in Ostberg's dust. Otherwise all he's ever done is lament himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Wow, it seems my phrasing was way off. It was a joke; basically it would be unbearable for me to have to see Latvala deflated again, a la 2016. I'd never stop watching the WRC, but I'd watch it in tears :)Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
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I was wondering today, does anybody know why TMG handed over the Yaris program to Tommi Makinen?
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Well, guys in Japan thought TMG was behind in development of the Yaris. Makinen managed to persuade Akio Toyoda (Toyota's president), that he can do a better job than TMG.So, the Japanese gave the reigns of the WRC program to TMR.
About Tanak's break from WRC in 2013, nothing new, but still... https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...st-msport-exit
Well said, i couldnt put it into words myself but i agree with this 100% :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
It was never told. Mr. Toyoda publicly launched TMG WRC program in January 2015 and annouced the switch only 6 months later. Besides Makinen lobbying and a possible negative feedback from TMG Yaris development (like macebig said), something more serious must have happened; Japanese companies usually don’t change their plans so drastically. I still believe it was Le Mans '15 disaster; it made them realize TMG should be 100% focused in wining Le Mans (they’re pretty close in 2016).Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
A point proven by Toyota's vastly expensive and very disappointing F1 project. For years they were the biggest spenders there and it got them nowhere yet they didn't change anything about their strategy until they finally pulled the plug. The same with the Honda works team at around the same time and then the funny enough turnaround when Ross Brawn came, bought the team and turned them into worldbeaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Yes, TMG being totally outpaced by Audi and Porsche during 2015's LeMans 24h race, surely played a part on them losing the WRC program.
So just wondering, non of the toyota boys are RedBull athlete? Seems odd since RedBull is highly present in all the other manufacturer...
Well Puuppola (where Toyota HQ is) has under 1000 people, one of them is Kalle Rovanperä (RedBull athlete), they don´t need more...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
https://www.mtv.fi/sport/ralli/uutin...764#gs.So_uDZI
Mäkinen confirms they are negotiating with Nasser, saying it's quite possible it will happen but the decision is not made yet. Nasser would have a car that is in 2017 end spec but with added safety modifications of this year (RallySafe?).
Big pressure on Toyota in Sweden imo. The amount they have been testing, added to the fact they won the event last year means they go in as big favourites. Jari or Ott would be my favourite for the win but even Lappi could challenge if he keeps the mistakes down. The car is improved from last year, so it will be interesting to see if they produce a similarly dominant performance to Finland last year.
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https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/?p=67065 “It’s tougher for Ogier to win in Sweden, this is our territory” said makinen. This comment sounds that they are very strong! It’s good to remember how strong neuville was in sweden last year. It’s not easy win for Toyota. I bet Jarimatti to win. I hope he will be faster than ott and Ep in sweden. It’s time to show who is nro 1 in team.
Indeed. I think it's quite likely they will be very fast on Saturday and Sunday. The challenge for them is Friday due to road position (with possible fresh snow) and the narrower and more twisty stages. Hyundai typically had advantage in those kind of conditions last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
If then Toyota guys end a bit behind and charge on Saturday, will it be enough and will they keep it on the road?
Ott TänakQuote:
Originally Posted by satukata
Hmm maybe not in Sweden. Latvala has got a great history of wins there.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Makinen:
"apart from Esapekka on the last stage in Monte Carlo, there were no mistakes. They are all at a very, very high level.”"
I really like Lappi, but I do wonder how his big off (second "biggest" in whole Monte after Sordo) got so unnoticed. It caused a puncture and could have end much worse (roll, spectators run over...).
Both all live and WRC highlights completely missed it and it seems Tommi missed it as well.
It's on 2:45 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hoax7zC6ko
https://ita-savo.fi/uutiset/urheilu/...d-19ea72a667f8
I don't know if this was already posted here somewhere (the story is from Jan 31), but Hänninen says he's doing testing for TGR in February in Spain and in March in Corsica. He'll also handle the gravel crew duties for Lappi in Corsica, Germany and Catalunya (and did so already in Monte Carlo).
The last quote is also worth mentioning:
"Nothing can be promised for certain, but now it feels like I won't be arranging rally driving for myself anymore."Quote:
Varmaksihan mitään ei voi luvata, mutta nyt tuntuu siltä, että en enää lähde itselleni ajohommia järjestelemään.
...although the context is bit unclear, as it can be understood from the story that he was referrering to local Finnish events. But ok, that's likely to be the case anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I think it's only classed as a serious off it it leads to car damage or a time loss. That one of Lappi's did neither...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
It caused a puncture, major time loss. Smaller errors are often shown on the daily recaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ak ok... maybe they didnt say what caused the puncture. I for one didnt know it was then.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Lol right now before Sweden SS was the first time they showed the Lappi off and said it caused the puncture.
very nice beginning to the season but next are the rallies where they struggled last year. Mäkinen mentioned to estonian TV that they are well prepared compared to last year, last year they hadnt done any high altitude tests and basically just went to Mexico without any testing whereas this year they have done those tests and now they have all the data from last year.
They start with their testing tomorrow in spain with Tänak.
The struggles were down to ventilation issues and stretched over to Portugal I believe (on a much lesser scale). I suppose they'll do well this time around judging by their speed, the new bumper, and the data from last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Al-Attiyah close to Toyota deal for WRC
https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...-deal-for-wrc/
And he should start the 6 event program from Argentina. Run by the team but not in their colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
NA-A will be sporting Red Bull and Qatar on the Toyota. He will most likely have the nicest liveried Yaris.
Yep I am looking forward to seeing this car. Will be good to have Nasser back in the championship. Crazy to think his last WRC event was back in 2015. Signs look good, but just want to see this confirmed as it seems every year we have a Nasser return story.
https://www.rallit.fi/tommi-makinen-...uvassa-hommia/
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/ar...tzbereit-sein/
Toyota Yaris R5 coming in 2020, testing starting in early 2019. The project will be led from TGR's Estonian base and Hänninen is likely to be the main test driver.