Remind me guys is there a drop score in the BRC championship this year?
The field certainly thinned out significantly for this round. I think the tight turnaround with Ypres is something they'll try to look at next year.
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Remind me guys is there a drop score in the BRC championship this year?
The field certainly thinned out significantly for this round. I think the tight turnaround with Ypres is something they'll try to look at next year.
The trip to Ypres is a definite plus, but the quick turn around is probably not the best for a lot of potential entrants. Do you drop this event, which would be a shame as it's a mixed surface event?
I hate to be negative, but I think IMS need to up their game on the promotion side; I know they had some signage in and around Builth Wells, but they do need to do more. Whilst on the ranges yesterday, the phone signal wasn't brilliant - so keeping up with the event wasn't easy. At British Championship level, a 'Rally radio' type of coverage is badly needed.
Ypres was true disaster for BRC - too many crashed cars...
Yes 6 scores count for Championship points and must include the final round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I heard something like that on the highlights programme but I cant believe any of the driver's believed they were going to be superior in Ypres.
I certainly didnt expect them to beat the locals or the other's with more experience, like Bouffier and Neuville.
The number of crashes by BRC driver's showed they were pushing too hard to try to match those guys who were really in a different class.
I can't remember the last time I was on Epynt with so few spectators either, it was almost like they hadn't promoted it locally. We walked into the last stage and weren't sure that we were even in the right place because there was genuinely no one else around.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
We also made comment about rally radio, seems to be a dying tradition. Years ago it was quite common to have something for the whole event that you could tune into and listen to updates and driver interviews. Guess that the advertising isn't there to fund it any more.
Anyway. Another high attrition event on Epynt, Ahlin looked in a different class yesterday so not at all surprised that he took it after Pryce dropped out.
Where does the bit "and must include the final round" come from. I can't see it mentioned in the set of regulations in front of me but then I am only the person responsible for calculating the points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
For most of the categories it is best 6 scores (out of 8). Two wheel drive and ladies is best 4 scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Thanks Martin. Seven round championship though right? What's the eighth score?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle
Mid-Wales I'd guess was included at the time the regs for the championship were set out. So in theory there's only one score to drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Rally Isle of Man is two scoring opportunities; first set of points for legs 1 and 2; second set of points for legs 3 and 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Wrong. Mid Wales was replaced by Border Counties (at very short notice). See post above for explanation of eighth round.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Wasn't sure, hence why I wrote "I'd guess", but thanks for the blunt response anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle
From https://www.msabrc.com/competitors/Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle
Championship Points
* Points will be awarded in each class as follows: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1
* The final round of the championship will be a double-header for points as the rally is split into two point scoring rounds.
* Competitors may nominate one event as their ‘joker’, on which they will score additional points: 5-4-3-2-1
* Six scores will count, including the final round of the championship.
But those are not the championship regulations which simply say (Art 5.2) "The British Rally Championship for Teams, Manufacturers, Drivers and Co-Drivers will be awarded to the entrant/competitors with the highest number of points from 6 out of 8 rounds.". I will bring the incorrect wording on the Championship web site to the attention of the Championship Manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I have now had confirmation from the BRC Championship Manager that the wording on the web site is incorrect. It will be corrected tomorrow. What is different about the final round, compared to last year, is that it is possible to score Joker points on either of the point scoring opportunities on Rally Isle of Man. Thanks to Fast Eddie WRC for pointing out the inconsistency.
Glad it's being cleared up. I thought it was a bit strange. But with the Manx being a 'double round' competitors will surely be attracted to this final event anyway.
Btw, bad news re the 2018 BRC... no Cambrian Rally.
https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...after-dispute/
Can't blame the BTRDA competitors; the running order issue is really hurting the sport, and needs to be addressed. We all understand why it was introduced, but it was a knee jerk reaction from the MSA.
I agree with you an so do people with real influence. Bad news is that I am told that there is no chance of anything changing until the Scottish Inquiry into the Jim Clark/Snowman accidents has reported. The Inquiry is due to start on the Monday I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Gillaine
The erroneous text about counting rounds in the Competitors section of the BRC web site has now been corrected see https://www.msabrc.com/competitors/
So the FIA want national championships to go R2 spec. I'm guessing they've forgotten how badly 2WD went with the BRC not long ago!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-of-wrc-ladder
Just when hundreds of R5/S2000 cars made the national championships worth watching again...
The route to WRC is simple. You get a shedload of cash and get a WRC2 drive. Compete well for 5 seasons and you stand a chance of becoming a WRC driver....as long as you have more money.
Most of current works drivers got there from national one make cups followed by JWRC/IRC and both Loeb and Ogier went to WRC directly from 2WD.
I think it's so vague that it's really not worth worrying about yet.
It's another situation where Mahonen speaks to David Evans about a half-baked thought he's had before anything is really sorted out. This happens countless times a season these days. Nothing is confirmed or clarified and it just creates more confusion and worry than anything else. And often there's a smaller story months later about how that previously mentioned idea aint happening.
Watching the NG Stages highlights it was interesting seeing the gravel to tarmac spec. Hard work for the mechanics mid-rally.
Also showed how bad that dust really was on day one.
Watching Pryce's car let him down and Cronin going off on the same stage... big swing in the Championship in Åhlin's favour.
With those two losing points and Cave not there it has to be Åhlin's to lose now.
Unless Matt Edwards can have a mega result and play his Joker !
A few Japanese drivers in Minis, does anyone know if they're full time over here or made a monumental trip for this event? Also seems Meirion will have a busy rally as shown entered twice! Guessing it's a typo and Mel will be in the Escort.
As Sal the 2nd says the Japanese Mini crews make an annual expedition to the Isle of Man. I believe one or two of them do have UK business connections but the cars are based in Japan as can be seen in the pictures on the event web site www.rally.im.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
The entry forms are filled in on-line by the competitors. I think you'll find there are two of them!Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Live radio coverage on the Ulster... :)
http://www.ulsterrally.com/news/2017...-rally-action/
The big news today is that Wales Rally GB will become the final round of the championship next year. It will be a double points round. As a result of the extra cost they will drop down to six rallies, with the Scottish and Nicky Grist losing their calendar slots.
I like that I think, that's very much a push towards just keeping the bigger, more prestigious events and easily allowing those who can afford to to dovetail BRC with another championship.
Hopefully the competitors agree.
And more reason to head back to Ypres again.
Shame to lose Nicky Grist, I enjoyed it as an event to attend and like the traditional idea of mixed surface. However the second day lacked a large entry and it was obviously a rally of high attrition. Also seemed to be pretty poorly attended by spectators, for some reason. Also as someone that lives in the South West it was the only event I could get to without a huge amount of time/hassle.
Personally I feel this is a bit of a backward step but time will tell.
2018 Prestone MSA British Rally Championship calendar*
10/11 March – Border Counties Rally, Jedburgh, Scotland
28/29 April – Pirelli International Rally, Carlisle, England
29/30 June – Renties Ypres Rally, Ypres, Belgium
17/18 August – John Mulholland Motors Ulster Rally, Derry/Londonderry, N. Ireland
13/14/15 September – 138.com Rally Isle of Man, Douglas, Isle of Man
October** – Dayinsure Wales Rally GB, Deeside, Wales
*Calendar subject to approval by the MSA
** Date to be confirmed by WRC Promoter & FIA World Motor Sport Council
To be honest, every BRC round should have Live radio coverage; it's only 2017. Isn't that what Promoters are for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ulster SS1 is underway and the rain starts right on cue... :rolleyes:
RallyFM.net @RallyFM
SS1 Crews having to back off due to the heavy rain making seeing the road difficult ! :disturb:
Great start by Ahlin, only beaten by Cronin but 15s ahead of Pryce and Edwards.
Impressive time by Pryce on SS2 but only a tenth ahead of Ahlin !
Ahlin must still be pushing.
Looks like Cronin vs Ahlin for the win here... and a really close battle so far, 1.5s gap after SS4 !
Edwards had some problem... only 27th on stage (+1:39.1) and now 11th o/a. :(
Big drama in the ITRC - Alastair Fisher has retired on SS2. :( Big chance now for Sam Moffett to capitalise.