I'm curious how he will perform. Personally I believe he's a bit overrated, so lets hope I'm wrong ;)
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I'm curious how he will perform. Personally I believe he's a bit overrated, so lets hope I'm wrong ;)
That is great news indeed.
I really hope this is a semi private entry. They allready have 3 good drivers and one for marketing purposes. And they are not giving Bouffier a chance. If this means one or two of the good ones don't get to drive in some evnt, this is a stupid decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
"Our livery will be confirmed in the coming weeks." - seems so, they woudnt be speaking about "our livery" if its full factory car... or ?Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Good news. Just hope they will keep three cars for their factory team during the rest of the year for Neuville, Sordo and Hanninen (except for Australia, where we now Atkinson will fill a place) and Paddon will 'just' be a private addition.
It looks like that's the case since he's paying for the drive.
Makes you wonder how Bouffier will feel!
Now Hyndai will need bigger supermarket :D
You are probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalm
Official works drive in the third car - http://www.hyundai.co.nz/new-thinking/m ... rc-program
No - Just like Tesco or Carrefour they will have the existing Hyper size for the main team and a Spar Shop for Paddon!Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
You are wrong. Paddon is a perpetual winner. A trait not evident in any current drivers except Ogier. This is a smart decision and well deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
I thought Paddon should have done another year in WRC2 with a Fiesta R5/ RRC or the Skoda S2000.
I wonder if Hyundai have not schooled themselves on the wrc mistakes of the past when manufacturers went for quantity of entries too early rather than the quality of their cars and never did very well.
I hope Bouffier gets more drives with M Sport.
Let us not forget that Paddon is a very good at testing and development too having built his own NZ championship winning cars since he was a teenager. He is very good at hands on engineering a skill set not evident with a number of other top line drivers
I think so too. Probably even this year we'll see some excellent results from him. Of course then everything else depends on the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
I'm repeating myself BUT Paddon has not defeated any big guy yet in any championship with any car. To call him next Ogier is way too exaggerated at least for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
I think this is result of his different types of competition (last 2 years). Now he can concentrate on WRC only, as this seems to be his goal from some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Nonsense. I'll repeat myself too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
On debut, in a WRC team, Paddon's credentials will surpass (means be better than) the credentials of both Loeb & Ogier at the time of their debuts.
I'm not suggesting Paddon will be the next Ogier. With the right support I'd aim one higher!
Many of you forget the very privileged introduction the Seb's had into the WRC. With the same level of support, others could achieve equally. There is no one more qualified than Paddon to do so.
LOL... No...
I woudn't compare him with Loeb especially, Loeb has debuted against maaaaaany World Champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
EDIT: Oh, btw happy birhtday to him :) - http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/febru...2--12-12-.html
Some more on wrc site:
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/febru...7--12-12-.html
LOL ... yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Keep dreaming.... broken dreams of nationalistic favouritism is my lunch.... and when the excuses like no support/money blah blah blah will start then your tears will be a nice beverage... ask the finns... they know the story very well...
Paddon is fast and good to watch but no future among the big boys.
Nothing could be further from the truth NOT. I'm not the chairman of the Paddon fan club so I'm about to shed tears regardless of what happens. However there are some home truths you might like to consider.
When somebody wins once or twice it may be fluke, luck or an aberration.
When they win consistently it's no longer likely to be any of these things but rather the emerging of a pattern.
When they understand what is required to win and use that knowledge to win everything they enter that is the makeup of a champion.
It is the ability to win that matters, not which car they've sat in or who's turned out against them.
Fortunately for Hayden your opinion of his capabilities is not shared by the "Big Boys" that I have spoken with for they rate him very highly indeed. His peers respect himQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
time will tell... all the best in his new adventure.
Happy for Hayden, but not a clever decision by Hyundai if you ask me. This is their first year in WRC with a new car, so they should focus on the progress of the car rather than on the drivers. Too many drivers already there...Good luck anyway !
Fully agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Anyway, it looks like this is a privately funded entry with support of Hyundai NZ.
Good luck to Hayden, he seems like a guy who deserves a chance, but what are these amazing credentials people are talking about? I think he has a lot to prove yet.
That's exactly what they are doing. More cars and more drivers - equals more input, more data, more experience. As has been said before, Hyundai has their own way of doing things. I think entering more cars makes perfect sense, if only they can afford it. And it's good for everyone - lot's drivers got seat. And, if you ask me, signing Paddon is a very smart move :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Yes I quite don't know how M-Sport manage multiple entries either...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So tell me, which big boys has Paddon defeated? Where and when? Which international championship he won?Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Sordo reached 37 podiums and 137 stage wins in WRC events and You tell me Paddon will beat him easily? Come on...
I like that guy, he is driving well but he is sooo much overrated by some of You guys that it is quite annoying (same goes to Breen). He may become champion one day, why not, but he has not reached the level yet.
I'm glad for Paddon for his chance, even if I would have preferred to see Bouffier on it...
Btw could someone explain me how the Hyundai's line up will work then? I understood it like
1st car - Neuville for all rounds
2nd car - one between Sordo, Hanninen or Atkinson (with Hanninen in the third car in Portugal)
3rd car - Paddon for all rounds starting from Sardinia
is this correct? or there will be actually 3 Hyundai's works car + Paddon's Hyundai NZ car in most of rounds?
Sordo is third car in Portugal, Hänninen and Neuville for manu pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Sordo should be one every event 'cos he rarely crash or NF...
http://www.3news.co.nz/Video-Hayden-Pad ... fault.aspx
Once you get past the 2 adverts there is a 4 minute interview with Hayden following the announcement.
This Year there are several drivers: Paddon, Tanak, Meeke, Hanninen, Breen, Evans... they are young and with no big experience with WRCar.
Maybe in the end of year 2014 we will see, who is who. Now only Tanak and Meeke can show, what they can with good car's.
Paddon, fast, but....
What I see, his team working very well with PR. All world know every move of Paddon's........
Meeke and Hanninen are not that young, Tanak has more than a year with WRC, Meeke also has almost a season I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by faateris
Yes, Tänak has 1 season and 2 rallies. Meeke's "almost season" is just a summary how many events has he done with a WRCar in WRC, but they are quite spread out on multiple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I like Paddon and all, of course to predict him as a Loeb-alike is looking into a crystal ball, but I think it can be agreed that he deserves what he's got - a half a season in a well supported seat. To be honest, no one, not even Loeb or Ogier, does much in their first whole WRC-car season. Mikko Hirvonen had two years in WRC class before he podiumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I think Paddon deserves as much a chance as the Sebs, Neuville, Sordo etc.: One full season to get a podium or two prove he is not a Ken Block consistent 8th-10th place driver, then hopefully more once that's proven.
I don't think anyone (except maybe sollitt) thinks he will instantly challenge the top, but I believe it is not overrating him to say he belongs in the WRC long enough to prove what others took a year or more to prove. His driving and results in support championships demonstrate this as much as those guys' careers pre-WRC.
Could it be? Is N.O.T.... backing down and saying something positive? Who are you and what did you do with the real N.O.T.?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Remember, RS, I talked about credentials at time of debut in a WRC car, not a comparison against what Loeb has achieved over the last decade or Ogier more recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
When Paddon drives his Hyundai over the start ramp in Italy in June (his WRC debut) his record of wins & achievements exceeds that of Loeb when he began his Citroen journey in 2002 and Ogier's in 2009.
We all know the greatness they have achieved since. Why would we not consider the possibility of the same from someone starting out with a stronger resume'?
What Mirek and others refuse to understand is that sport is not about how many times you've turned up ... it's about how many times you've won.
The ability to understand fully what is required to win and then to implement those requirements is a skill and a mindset not everyone possesses, and when a competitor has a record of winning at every level they contest there is every reason to believe that they will continue to do so when they reach the top tier ... or at least be competitive.
These are skills that Paddon has developed and as a result he has been 'the person to beat' at every level he's contested for a number of years including WRC2.
That is why he should have been on the shortlist of every WRC team but, as we know, who has a seat presently is more about politics and money.
How's that working out for you?
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