That would be Sweden then. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
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That would be Sweden then. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I honestly don't think the WRC would survive if that happened. That is a recipe for disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
at the beginning they said end of June, then end of July now the end of August???? not cool, there are lot's of speculation of a 12 round calendar for next year, what's the problem with doing the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Monte-Carlo
Sweden
Mexico/Brazil
Argentina
Portugal
Italy
Greece
Finland
Germany
New-Zealand
Spain
France
Wales GB
just because Robert Kubica is rallying in the WRC, it doesn't mean they should bring rally Poland....such a mistake
Well, one could also say: "Loeb is no longer rallying in the WRC, it doesn't mean they should keep Rally Alsace ... such a mistake"Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
true, i think they should bring back Corsica.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
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Originally Posted by Eli
I think it seems that Poland will get a spot in 2015 and onwards if the Swedish Rally have to pull out.
What is your problem with Poland? How many times have you been there to watch rally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Rally Poland was great in 2009 apart from all the hay bales, something similar to Finland can't be a mistake...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I don't get people who criticise rallies they never been to. If they follow rallies from behind the screen there is no difference if rally goes in China or in the Moon.
Agree.
I went to Poland in 2009 as one of my first European WRC events.
It was far better an event than all the GB's, Spain's and Sardinia's that I've been to - and that's at least two of each.
I'm sure that the promoter company would jump through I don't know what if that was possible :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wrc1600
A nice list of events that would provide an excellent championship but how many of those countries can now afford the costs involved. Not everyone lives in a subsidised world these days and those that currently do will not be doing so for very much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Ypres should be in it
Financially it is impossible. Ypres tried to get in WRC, and did a "candidate event" in the late 90's (I think it was '96). But what they learned from it wasn't so positive, and I don't think the organizers have any ambitions towards WRC right now (of course that can change). The fact is, to get in WRC, you need a huge sponsor and government support. Ypres has no support from any government right now, except the city letting them use the town center and the roads. Apart from that, it's only 400kms from Trier, 500kms from Strasbourg, think around 600kms from Wales, 600kms from Valence (don't know exactly how far from other Monte Carlo stages).Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
The latest rumors, the calendar should remain at 13 events ... so only one of Acropolis, Sardinia and Australia/NZ will leave the wrc.
it's not that i have a problem with Poland, it's just a shame to see Rally Acropolis,or New-Zealand/Australia, or even Sardegna which provided us a great event,if the sport wouldn't lack the cash i wouldn't mind having it.
It is strange that one country, France, is the territory of two events and at the same time other countries are struggling to get in the calendar or remain in it. And it is even more strange that one of these two events, Alsace, is very similar to the event of another country, Germany.
I have been to Alsace and Germany as well as many other European rounds of the WRC. To my point of view, Alsace is a second Germany, with significantly less character. I know, it is in the center of Europe and so it has many spectators, but I don't think there is any other advantage in having it in the calendar. If the point is to have tarmac rallies, then Italy can surely be the ground for a wonderful tarmac event, of a unique character. And so does Corsica.
San Remo and Corsica were adding their own unique colour to the championship. Wrc needs to have events with unique character!Quote:
Originally Posted by scn
I remember that Poland was an amazing event, very similar to Finland, so very spectacular! However, i think that it's not possible cut off Acropolis or one between NZ and Australia...these are "monument" for the wrc! Sardinia it's a great event too, with it's own caracter...but Alsace, why Alsace in the calendar? Onestly it's the worse event on calendar, morover with this WRC cars, that on termac are not so spectacular like 12/15 years ago...it's a copy of Germany! SanRemo unfortuately has no money to come back, and probably Italian federation neither want it...so cut off Alsace, and put in Poland! i'm shure that everybody will be very happy!
Yeah, that's the best way to make the WRC stronger and more attractive.
Get rid of its best promoted, highest media coverage, best attended event.
@Simorally86, you are right that the current WRC cars are not so spectacular in tarmac hairpins and junctions. I prefer watching the cars on faster places, and don't have any complaints about the spectacle modern rallycars provide... :)
I wouldn't mind a tarmac event in Poland (or Czech Republic), in stead of the gravel Rajd Polski (no matter how nice it is). :) The bumpy narrow tarmac roads in PL and CZ, that would be a new challenge for the teams and drivers.
they should do the following:
Monte-Carlo
Sweden
Mexico/Brazil
Portugal
Argentina
Greece
Sardegna
Poland
Finland
Germany
New-Zealand
Spain
Wales GB
and in 2015 bring back Corsica if possible, and if Rally Sweden can't be there, put Norway instead or even Canada or something like that. One more thing, i really wish they would bring Rally Australia back to Perth, although if it comes down to NZ or Australia, take NZ.
unique is long gone within the wrc, all rallies now is the same formula including the names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill_
Norway pulled out because they couldn't get enough sponsors/spectators to get a viable budget. With higher costs I doubt that they would do better now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Yes you are right! Est Europe termac rallys are amazing! Fast roads, bumpy and often with a portion of gravel during the stage! Barum rally will be amazing in calendar! About modern rally cars...well, i'm a nostalgic of the first era of WRC cars...on termac was really high spectacle...i live close to SanRemo, and i had the fortune to see every year SanRemo, MonteCarlo, Tour de Corse and often old Catalunya in Vic...in my opinion there is no comparison with nowadays cars...instead, on gravel, modern wrc are amazing as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Barum rally was a candidate event in 2005 but in current situation in our rallying I think it's impossible to find budget to organize WRC event. Also for spectators Poland is sure better now because they don't have the safety craziness what we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simorally86
Stiil, there are events that differ. Monte Carlo, Sweeden, GB, Acropolis, Finland are such examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Agree except for Sardinia, always had great memories from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
The point is that even if there are some differences regarding the actual surface, they all (more or less) use the same formula.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill_
They're all named the exact same way, Rally X.
Most Rallies are three day events.
Their more or less the same length
They're all have 3-4 stages before lunch and then after lunch its the same 3-4 stages repeated.
They all/most of them got at least one super special.
The only possible unique with Rally Sweden is that its a shared event between Sweden and Norway.
so in a couple of weeks time, new calendar for 2014 set to be revealed...
That will be your best day of the year I think!
No, but it's agenizing to wait which rally they will take off the calendar
You plan on going to the 1st event?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Would be bad for the variation in the WRC to loose its winter-rally if it is not replaced on the calendar.
What Snow event could replace Sweden on such a short notice?
Tunturiralli. :D
ETUSIVU
yes actually :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
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looks like Rally Sweden might not event be in the calendar for next year....if they don't find funding soon enough the WRC could be without a snow rally!!!!
FIA denies Acropolis Rally already dropped from 2014 WRC schedule - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
Seems Sweden was a bit of talk. Says all events have signed the contract.
Sno*Drift in Michigan is run the last weekend of January... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I don't think anyone in the US can organize a WRC event but hold out hope for Canada (preferably Ontario or Quebec).
I thought that studs were not allowed in that event. I doubt WRC teams would be interested...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y