I could see Loeb doing Le Mans with Peugeot, but not Audi. Dr Ulrich doesn't seem to be the type of person to do such things.
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I could see Loeb doing Le Mans with Peugeot, but not Audi. Dr Ulrich doesn't seem to be the type of person to do such things.
Quesnel's worst nightmare??
Following Audi's win at Le Mans - does this show what the VW Group are capable of, and what the future holds for the PSA v VW Group in the WRC?
hmmm...we will see. Rallying is a different story and far more complex and difficult than running in circles.
They are not going to WRC to play the crowds. They have almost unlimited resources and are ready to spend them. If it's enough, we'll see but I expect them to be very serious contender.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I dont like the rumours from Mirek that the 1600T development has stopped in CZ. Is VAG moving the whole ops to DEU?
Is there one VAG Motorsport shop or are the VW and Audi sport shops totally separate ?
Exactly! If they're as serious about the WRC as they are about Le Mans, then watch out. They will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Yes but the WRC isn't as simple as spending money :) 307 Crap Cabriolet WRCar anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Same with Toyota in F1, no limits on the budget, but no results to show for it. I also heared that when Skoda was run by Mulheimer that their budget was next to PSA, but the Germanic ethos worked against success. Having said that I fully expect VW WRC to be a superb effort, Citroen will fight against them, who wins we will see, and we are in for a great show.
I agree, the car should be a winner, but the other part of the equation is who will drive it to make it win. VW need a star driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Loeb? probably not as he will retire or stay loyal to Citroen
Ogier? he should become number 1 at Citroen, once Loeb retires, so would be silly to move camp
Latvala? Loyal to Ford
Sordo? Maybe, no loyality at Mini...yet
Petter? In my opinion, I would offer him a drive. Getting older but still super quick as we know.
A German driver? Can't really see another Walter Rohrl at the moment
So maybe they need to start developing a young driver as soon as possible
Tanak? signed to MSport already I believe
Nikara?
Novikov?
Mikkelssen?
To me it looks as Juho Hanninen is in the right place and the right car at the moment to step up.
Privateer Skoda Fabia WRcars showed much potential, so what did mr Mulheimer do wrong? Was it like the Peugeot engineers finding themself too much important to listen to simple rally drivers, or wasted they logistic materials and research budget?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Toyota F1 went wrong because of Japanese managment did not listen to lower working guy and exept critic and engineers did not dare to be critic to bosses
Nasser Al Attiyah will drive the VW Motorosport Skoda Fabia S2000 in Finland. But VW will invite several young talented drivers to test them. Who can we expect in 2011?
AFAIK almost all You mentioned are in contact with VW about 2013 season...Quote:
Originally Posted by Maui J.
Any new info regarding the rumor that Xavier Mastelan leaves Citroλn for VW?
I havent got confirmation that XM is leaving. As far as I know its FX Demaison who is heading the engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Their biggest challenge is lack of data, compared to the two others. They have tonnes of data on how to get a quick WRCar.
Their best option is to get a 1600T engine in regional spec into the car ASAP and start doing rallies in all places they can, also in WRC. Collecting data in a Fabia S2000NA is not the same.
If this rumour is true,they are serious about rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Finally confirmed: Rally addicted www.xwmatinos.gr - Αποκλειστικά στο xwmatinos.gr: Υπέγραψε με τη VW o Al- Attiyah!
Nasser signed with VW for 3 years!
an expected private entry deal.....
the interview states that this driver who has more exclusions due to illegal cars than entries to rallies, will drive a skoda s2000 in 2012 and then he will spend some millions to drive the wrc of the team in 2013 in all rounds. I would hardly call this thing a signing.since its more of a private deal many tourists have done and do with WRC teams.
i take back my comment at #335...Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
any other news from Nasser Tolis? spill the beans!!
why ?? WV did not contact nasser, he went there and offered them his millions ...... why would they say no? did ford say no to kupiers ? and citroen to merkenstjein ?
Thats a different aproach Greg.It is very strange though to pay for 3 years without knowing any about the car.I undestant that vw signed him,and not that he payed for his seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You understood wrong....
Tourist drivers do not care about the car or performance....Nasser knows that WV has a plan to stay so he secured a car to enjoy some tourism.
Its a private deal not a contract with the WV team.
Still very strange cause of the ''3 years''.Next 1-2 years are going to be available a lot of wrc cars,so i can t see Nasser to be in a hurry to contract-pay for 3 years for an unknown car in terms of speed/reliability,unless he is payed.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
lets wait for more info.
LOL...
i give up.....
In works teams it should never be paying drivers. It's not sporty.
dont laugh and give up,just tell us another example in wrc history where a pay driver contracted for 3 years without even have seen the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
i prefer to give up and laugh... sorry...
there is not much i can say and argue to people who believe that a company like WV will PAY REAL MONEY to Nasser for driving their cars..... is like believing that WIlson is getting his drive because he has sponsors and not his daddy.
and if you read the interview it says that they search for 2 more drivers...so what is the point in paying 3 drivers when they can only nominate 2 ??? and one of them will be Nasser ???
It is too early for anything....the interview itself has no substance since it comes from a tourist driver and not from someone working at WV...Nasser can say and believe whatever he wants.
It is a private/paying entry and that is that.
same manufacture had payed in grA days Weber and Kleint.If they are going to make the same mistakes yes its possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
There are roumors about changing the 2 drivers to 3 for works teams.Be sure that vw and Nasser will know it before you and me.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Your only right words.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
How did you thought that,while you can t find an example from last 30 years,with another driver to have pay for 3 years while he haven t even see the car?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Thats really laughable..
Arai
when,which car?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
And in the Group A days...it was a golden age of salaries and opportunities in rallying..... Lancia payed Biasion for christ sake !!!!!!!
Can you name a driver of the caliber of Nasser who got payed by a manufacturer (not sponsors) in the recent years to drive ?
Subaru 2008 Grp N, the deal i think was for 4 years initially but the folding of the team forced him out and only did promotional drives in japan at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I'm not sure Haninnen would want to stay at VAG after the way he's been messed around in the IRC/SWRC mess. I can't see Petter either at this stage due to his results. I think Nasser will be quite good at developing the car as he was quite potent in the Dakar/Raid series.
to end this pointles discussion....there is no logic to sign Nasser to a paying contract especially when you have 2 drivers ready to go in your little sisters team (Kopecky and Hanninen)
As i said its too early and you can believe whatever or whoever you want unfortunatelly this is a democracy...so if you want to believe that Nasser will get payed its ok...and they will pay him although they do not know if we are going to have 3 cars in 2013 then its also ok...
so you do not see petter as a valid option but you see nasser.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
nice....
very nice....
Biasion gained 2 world championships,do NOT know that for christ sake?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
ShwartzQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
LOL at the biggest fraud of rallying....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Shwartz and triner were 15 years ago.....
Which deal are you talking? Arai had his team which prepared grN sti even till now.Arai is one of three teams choosed by subaru japan to evolution the n14 togather with Barratero and Tmr.Have you got any clue what are you talking?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Shwartzs last rally was at 2005.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I am talking about TEAM Arai, his team as you said was chosen from subaru japan to represent them....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
You are right.... forgot he did a 2 season when the team returned i was remembering the 2001 season before he moved to hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii