Schumacher !!! Should he call it quits

It was like watching Schumacher defend 10 championships in one day. Even NASCAR would have black-flagged him today for those antics. But I guess the super-fit, super-human Schumacher can't compete with the kids these days at the grand old age of 42 (it's the new 32). Long gone are those days when he was able to carry that cursed Benetton across the finnish line in his mighty arms.

Coulthard and Brundle got their shots in today:

"He's been lacking in the wheel to wheel combat."
"Well, he's never really had to worry about that in his career running at the front."

"He just doesn't know when to give up!"
"You mean his career?"
"No, in that corner!"

It's overman!

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Originally Posted by Marbles

It was like watching Schumacher defend 10 championships in one day. Even NASCAR would have black-flagged him today for those antics. But I guess the super-fit, super-human Schumacher can't compete with the kids these days at the grand old age of 42 (it's the new 32). Long gone are those days when he was able to carry that cursed Benetton across the finnish line in his mighty arms.

Coulthard and Brundle got their shots in today:

"He's been lacking in the wheel to wheel combat."
"Well, he's never really had to worry about that in his career running at the front."

"He just doesn't know when to give up!"
"You mean his career?"
"No, in that corner!"

It's overman!

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Yeah but in 20 years people willl remember the name Schumacher as one of the greatest ever.


and Brundle, who is he?? what did he ever do??
I can not remember....is he that fat mechanic know it all on Speed TV???

Oh no, now I remember. He holds the record for the most f1 races by a driver, without a pole, without a fastest lap, without a victory...but he did manage to finish 4th or something


then who was the other guy??? Oh yeah Davie C, who could not cut it against his team mates, and despite driving one of the best cars on the grid.....and looks sponge bob square pants or who ever.....and of course, always beaten by schuie.

Those two are still sore losers.....

Of course, MS could go do nascar.

But first he would need to get in proper shape to do NASCAR......He would need to bulk up. He would need to drop all that excerczing and drink lots of beer, much BBQ, put on another 75-100 lbs and go do it.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

. He holds the record for the most f1 races by a driver, without a pole, without a fastest lap, without a victory...but he did manage to finish 4th or something


then who was the other guy??? Oh yeah Davie C, who could not cut it against his team mates,

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Brundle is a World Sportscar Champion and a winner of 24 hours Le Mans.

David Coulthard is the winner of 13 Grand Prix. In more than 100 years of Grand Prix racing, only 18 drivers have ever won more grand prix than him, 14 of whom are alive.

They might not be the greatest stars of formula 1, but they are both extremely sucessful people in their life and career. To top it all off, they are both wealthy, and seem to be enjoying a comfortale life. Coultahrd, I believe also owns a hotel in Monaco. Not that wealth is a measure of greatness or anything, but...

I don't know what you've done and what achievements you have had in your name dude, but if that's your definition of 'loser', I really would love to be a loser as well.

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Originally Posted by aryan

Brundle is a World Sportscar Champion and a winner of 24 hours Le Mans.

David Coulthard is the winner of 13 Grand Prix. In more than 100 years of Grand Prix racing, only 18 drivers have ever won more grand prix than him, 14 of whom are alive.

They might not be the greatest stars of formula 1, but they are both extremely sucessful people in their life and career. To top it all off, they are both wealthy, and seem to be enjoying a comfortale life. Coultahrd, I believe also owns a hotel in Monaco. Not that wealth is a measure of greatness or anything, but...

I don't know what you've done and what achievements you have had in your name dude, but if that's your definition of 'loser', I really would love to be a loser as well.

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Originally Posted by N. Jones

Your pace is slow.

Your defending is offensive.

Your racecraft is gone.

Michael - you need to give up the ghost.

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And he knows it!

He's got that same wild eyed look that Damon had at the end of his career.

he should stay some more. he's performances are simply delightful. The guy who would win in a Minardi can't even finish in the top ten in a Mercedes. Give the cars MS drove and a puppet for a team mate to a Vettel, Alonso or Hamilton and they will all win at least 7 titles too. I think with him still on track cars should be fitted with horns.

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Originally Posted by aryan

Brundle is a World Sportscar Champion and a winner of 24 hours Le Mans.

David Coulthard is the winner of 13 Grand Prix. In more than 100 years of Grand Prix racing, only 18 drivers have ever won more grand prix than him, 14 of whom are alive.

They might not be the greatest stars of formula 1, but they are both extremely sucessful people in their life and career. To top it all off, they are both wealthy, and seem to be enjoying a comfortale life. Coultahrd, I believe also owns a hotel in Monaco. Not that wealth is a measure of greatness or anything, but...

I don't know what you've done and what achievements you have had in your name dude, but if that's your definition of 'loser', I really would love to be a loser as well.

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Originally Posted by aryan

David Coulthard is the winner of 13 Grand Prix. In more than 100 years of Grand Prix racing, only 18 drivers have ever won more grand prix than him, 14 of whom are alive.

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In the end DC was like MS now. Very, very slow, a shadow of what he once was.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

and Brundle, who is he?? what did he ever do??
I can not remember....is he that fat mechanic know it all on Speed TV???

Oh no, now I remember. He holds the record for the most f1 races by a driver, without a pole, without a fastest lap, without a victory...but he did manage to finish 4th or something.

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Actually, Martin held up really rather well against Michael in the Benetton. Once Michael realised, as with Herbert, Barrichello etc etc, they were not allowed to get near him after that.

Still, what goes around.....

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Originally Posted by F1boat

In the end DC was like MS now. Very, very slow, a shadow of what he once was.

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Difference being DC knew when to quit....

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Originally Posted by aryan

Brundle is a World Sportscar Champion and a winner of 24 hours Le Mans.

David Coulthard is the winner of 13 Grand Prix. In more than 100 years of Grand Prix racing, only 18 drivers have ever won more grand prix than him, 14 of whom are alive.

They might not be the greatest stars of formula 1, but they are both extremely sucessful people in their life and career. To top it all off, they are both wealthy, and seem to be enjoying a comfortale life. Coultahrd, I believe also owns a hotel in Monaco. Not that wealth is a measure of greatness or anything, but...

I don't know what you've done and what achievements you have had in your name dude, but if that's your definition of 'loser', I really would love to be a loser as well.

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I said "sore loser".....old expression for someone who LOSES to someone else and then stays mad and can not get over it.....

No I would not call anybody who has ever managed to get a drive in F1, a "loser".......not even "How-bad-you-are" or Yung or whatever his name.

As to my career, Chapman wanted me to drive for him, but Jimmy Clark was too scared, threatened to quit if he hired me, said he would not be able to handle the competition.......so Chapman withdrew the offer and I never thought further about it.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Difference being DC knew when to quit....

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I think the MS big problems are lack of testing and dealing with the tires.
In his prime, that is all he did was TEST, TEST and TEST some more.......

There are moments he shows brillance in races, and then moments he looks like a rookie in Qing.

It strikes me that he over-drives the car in Qing to make up for not going as fast as he wants, as in trying too hard, rahter than just driving and letting the car and track come together with a certain acceptance of he ends up where he ends up on the grid.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

I think the MS big problems are lack of testing and dealing with the tires.
In his prime, that is all he did was TEST, TEST and TEST some more.......

There are moments he shows brillance in races, and then moments he looks like a rookie in Qing.

It strikes me that he over-drives the car in Qing to make up for not going as fast as he wants, as in trying too hard, rahter than just driving and letting the car and track come together with a certain acceptance of he ends up where he ends up on the grid.

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I think there is a great deal of truth in what you say.

That being the case though, with his experience, he really should be able to recognised that he is over driving the thing, and if he can't, well, I think I've already voiced my opinion on what he should do.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Difference being DC knew when to quit....

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Could have done it a year earlier, if you ask me. But I agree about MS - he should have never came back. But he also shouldn't be judged because of this two seasons. He is waaaay past his prime.

I heard that MS declared that he wants to continue racing.

I hope he does :D

Interesting interview with Herbert.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91309

Think he's right.

Herbert: Another sore loser:

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"The simple fact is that he is no longer the best driver on the track," Herbert wrote in a column in Abu Dhabi's The Nation newspaper.
"Schumacher has not lost any of his skill - the new generation of young drivers are just better than him. It is a case that the level required to win in F1 has gone up and he is not at that standard anymore.

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and herbert writes for who??????

Was he not a race driver at some point? ?????name sounds a little famailar, I just can not remember......

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

Nice try, and he's still good enough to compete, but that will never be enough for him. Give it up and get Di Resta in the Merc for next year. That is all.

That's what I think as well. Schumacher is taking up the space of someone that can do it justice.

Get Paul in there now!!

You sound a little sore yourself Bill. Herbs is calling it like he see's it, nothing more.

All people who got beaten by MS now have their fun... kinda pathetic IMO.

Yes. He shouldn't have come back. He is too old and too slow. Give the Mercedes to di Resta and the Force India to Chandhok.

Well I dont think he's very slow, he's about 2/10th slower then rosberg at best, but I guess the frustrating situations he gets into are getting to him now. I hope he continues!

Brawn and Merc still believe he has it - So who are we to question these professionals. MS did not buy his new ride to my knowledge so drive on !!

It happens in all forms of sport (maybe not tiddlywinks);

Look at Tennis, Snooker, Athletics etc. As soon as someone comes a long to dominate, be it the Williams Sisters, Hendry, Linford etc, the bar is raised and the new breed of sportspeople come in at that level and better it.

It is nothing to get heated about - it just happens.

Schumacher was pressuring Senna in 1994, Hakkinen & Alonso pressured Schumacher in 1998/9/2005/6, Hamilton pressured Alonso in 2007, Vettel pressured the established frontrunners from 2009.

Unless you are in the class of the field car, with a significant advantage (not to detract from Button's achievments) but the new boys will always be nipping the heels of the current class.

Get over it!

I have the same impression as many of you about di Resta, without too much background details, scoring points in two of four races in a brand new championship is very good. Wait for more races to see the talent is proven permanently for the whole season or what he has achieved is not more than a sensation in the opening races, is a highly recommended candidate to fill up Schummacher's seat.

I feel sorry that Michael doesn't improve in the second year of his come back to the series. I can't believe driver who can give strong pressure on his opponents: Senna, Hakkinen, Damon Hill, is off beat when he comes to race against younger drivers. The skill and his instinct may be deteriorated by his age, but fans expect that he can do something better than his current pace, The Reinmeister..

Hamilton pressured Alonso in 2007, but the winner is Raikkonen :)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

It happens in all forms of sport (maybe not tiddlywinks);

Look at Tennis, Snooker, Athletics etc. As soon as someone comes a long to dominate, be it the Williams Sisters, Hendry, Linford etc, the bar is raised and the new breed of sportspeople come in at that level and better it.

It is nothing to get heated about - it just happens.

Schumacher was pressuring Senna in 1994, Hakkinen & Alonso pressured Schumacher in 1998/9/2005/6, Hamilton pressured Alonso in 2007, Vettel pressured the established frontrunners from 2009.

Unless you are in the class of the field car, with a significant advantage (not to detract from Button's achievments) but the new boys will always be nipping the heels of the current class.

Get over it!

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Correct

OH, Yeah.....MS is over the hill, for sure. :rolleyes:

Here is a video of Hamilton and MS going toe to toe, wheel to wheel, buttocks to buttocks, with Hamilton on the fresh rubber right out of the pits and MS was on old rubber (whch everyone knows is a tremendous advantage with the new trojan rubbers from Pirelli, cause beleive me, used trojans are never as good as fresh ones......).

MS was far tougher on Hamilton then Button............of course, Button knowing he is the mac lap dog for lewis may explain why :D

You can guess which race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF4uYQt3IFc&NR=1


speaking of used rubber, reminds me of the time donkey and his bud were out in the country and approached by a sweet thing.

She said let's get it on....they said, "well, yes mam".

she said, "but I don't want to get preganent, so you got to wear this" and hands out one for each.

They put it on, and then they get it on.

About four months later, after she is gone, they get to talking.

One asks the other, "do you really care if she gets preganant?"

The other says, "well no I do not."

So the others say, "me neither, so why don't we take these old rubbers off......




Some folks along pit wall need to remember to take the old rubbers off earlier than later.....

Got anything more recent to prove the old dog can learn new tricks?

nice stolen photos showing petrov, turning LEFT into MS, such that while it was alleged that MS turned into him, and MS agreed, well, boys and girls, looks like MS was in the wrong, but only when he said it was his fault.

Petrov did the dirty.

Seems Petrov is the new Sato..........and the shame is that if the Kube had not had his wreck, he might be the only real challenger to Vettel, given the obvious speed of the new renault design.

Instead, they get the crazy russian

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7023/cfghdhbfdghf.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Got anything more recent to prove the old dog can learn new tricks?

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I see said the blind man....or as the song goes, none so blind as one who refuses to see......MORE RECENT??????have you not figured out which race the video is from???

It´s obvious that he gives people something to talk about and perfect ads for Mercedes.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

I see said the blind man....or as the song goes, none so blind as one who refuses to see......MORE RECENT??????have you not figured out which race the video is from???

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Indeed I have sir. And where did the illustrious Schumacher finish in that little race? Oh and were was his team mate again? Gee, my memories not what it was, perhaps you could supply those little details.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

OH, Yeah.....MS is over the hill, for sure. :rolleyes:

Here is a video of Hamilton and MS going toe to toe, wheel to wheel, buttocks to buttocks, with Hamilton on the fresh rubber right out of the pits and MS was on old rubber (whch everyone knows is a tremendous advantage with the new trojan rubbers from Pirelli, cause beleive me, used trojans are never as good as fresh ones......).

MS was far tougher on Hamilton then Button............of course, Button knowing he is the mac lap dog for lewis may explain why :D

You can guess which race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF4uYQt3IFc&NR=1


speaking of used rubber, reminds me of the time donkey and his bud were out in the country and approached by a sweet thing.

She said let's get it on....they said, "well, yes mam".

she said, "but I don't want to get preganent, so you got to wear this" and hands out one for each.

They put it on, and then they get it on.

About four months later, after she is gone, they get to talking.

One asks the other, "do you really care if she gets preganant?"

The other says, "well no I do not."

So the others say, "me neither, so why don't we take these old rubbers off......




Some folks along pit wall need to remember to take the old rubbers off earlier than later.....

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I think they were on Bridgestones for start ;)

Also, we saw some great driving from Lewis where MS had gone in too hot and LH did the switchback. If MS learned how to do this from Lewis, he might not have hit Petrov :D

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Got anything more recent to prove the old dog can learn new tricks?

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It is more like you can't teach a old dog DUMB tricks. The car is not a winner yet and until it is don't expect a daring result.
I think older drivers become a bit cautious and won't push a sh!tpile to the limit if they can't win... MS is out there to win and could give a crap about podiums

At least Schumacher is now perfect for his new job! ;)

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The seven times World Champion and Formula 1 icon Michael Schumacher is currently acting as Europe's Ambassador for road safety. On Wednesday the German visited Strasbourg where he launced the UN decade of action on Road Safety.
Schumacher visited the European Parliament and he met MEPs from the transport and industry committees as well as EP President Jerzy Buzek.
The European Parliament published on their webpage an interview where Schumacher send a message to too fast drivers on the road...

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Source: RacingNewsFlash.com


Michael himself is definitely not driving too fast... ;)

Poor mercedes.....they want the team to be a profit center, they have like half or less the number of people than Mac, to do twice the work......

Poor Micheal,...... very upseting....he does not even get a time in Q3..... :eek:

in spain,
where it rain
upon the plain,
but could not stop the pain


well



everyone is now upset that micheal may never win another f1 race, but may be this discussion will solve the problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S_LsTZFW2Y

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Poor mercedes.....they want the team to be a profit center, they have like half or less the number of people than Mac, to do twice the work......

Poor Micheal,...... very upseting....he does not even get a time in Q3..... :eek:

in spain,
where it rain
upon the plain,
but could not stop the pain


well



everyone is now upset that micheal may never win another f1 race, but may be this discussion will solve the problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S_LsTZFW2Y

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dont mind about the text part. but dude the vedio ?

its really looking like this will be michaels last year... how long can he keep humiliating himself.. ill be shocked if he races next year..

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Poor Micheal,...... very upseting....he does not even get a time in Q3..... :eek:

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I wouldn't be so harsh on him this time... Q3 was purely a tactical move, and we will see how it plays out (I can't see it working well), that being said Rosberg is the only one who did set a better time than Q2... I bet the shoe would have outpaced him.