More than just herding................. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
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More than just herding................. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Really gutted by the recent events. Maybe NOS coverage wasn't the best possible but for sure it was better than nothing! And they had routine.
A real shame for WRC, if nothing special happens this is the beginning of an end for the series as we know it. V*ttu mitä paskaa.
Shearing? Haha :DQuote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Motors Tv announces the Preview Show for Sweden. So at least, we will have Motors Tv coverage.
???What???Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Free to Air or Pay TV is irrelevant.
We are not talking about the broadcaster, we are talking about one nominated production company traveling to all events making the shows. With consistent voice overs, the same results graphics, similar format highlights packages etc.
At the moment how it stands without a promotor, is that each individual WRC round organisers with have to employ local production companies to video the stages, record interviews, supply graphics etc and then quickly edit and distribute across the globe within hours of the day finishing.
Not in this context. It would only work if the promoter promotes the events, not just pocket the money. Might want to check with Turkey and Korea about their 'success story'. In the end, Bernie wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
At least I could watch free WRC onboards on YouTube, Bernie doesn't let me do that for F1.
No there isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
I believe this to be an act of delusion....
No, there isn't. It's just some child or children playing as they did on this forum yesterday (hint: check how old that fb page is). Moderators, please remove posts mentioning this fictitious company as it may be misleading members during a serious time for the WRC.
Edit: Thanks rallyfiend, you beat me to it!
I didnt say it was in a good or bad way, calm down ladies ;)
It might sound funny but that company actually does exist. It is owned by a man named Jonathan Thursby. Their website is a complete joke. Also the fact that they created the Youtube account on the 1st February this year is a bit strange. But the thing that doesn't add up is this - Extreme Video - Products -, and the Thursby character.
The Extreme Video story appears to be something that could go either way. It may be that an entrepreneur with WRC experience and the technology and backing is making the most of an opportunity created by this mess. Then again, it could be all hype and people clutching at straws and the whole thing may fade away to nothing.
I am particularly annoyed at the FIA at the moment as it was only today that they told me they would not issue a photographer pass for Rally Sweden. The Sunday before a rally! It is a complete joke, the FIA is run by dinosaurs. It isn’t as if every click and every visitor can be tracked on the internet is it?!
I appreciate that awarding passes to every website is impractical but with the payment required it weeds out the chancers and if they bothered to stop and think about it they could decide on minimum unique visitors or any other metric as a way to only include the bigger websites in coverage. It isn't as if EVERY single click and visitor to a website can be monitored and tracked is it?!
If they were even slightly more progressive and embraced new media they could increase media coverage tenfold overnight.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, I have come up with a low budget (initially) solution to try to bring together some form of coverage from Rally Sweden.
People power could really change things; real fans doing things their way. There are enough of us who have specialist skills in IT, web development, web design, social media, film making, photography, writing, presenting etc. Let us, the fans, create THE best rally website in the world.
I am happy to donate World Rally Review | The Online Rally Magazine to form the foundation of this project which could really develop into something. Think live streaming, interactive maps, podcasts, webisodes, on the spot reports from fans, split times, an app, a tablet version of the website and even our very own glossy magazine or book. The opportunities are endless. We can have the very latest videos and photos online before the official outlets have even seen them.
World Rally Review could be the Linux or Wordpress of the rally world, an open source rally magazine run by the people. Nobody to tell us what we can and cannot watch or when we can and cannot watch it.
Social media has helped to create political change for entire countries. We only want to use it to create change in a sport we all love. How hard can that be?
Those that are interested can email e-mail us on [email:12axu5ip]revolution@worldrallyreview.com[/email:12axu5ip] to let us know what you have to offer or what you would like to see. Spread the word on Facebook, Twitter and everywhere else and let’s take back control of rallying and change things for the better, on our terms.
So who wants to be part of a rally revolution? Or are we all just apathetic and prefer to moan about the problems rather than doing something about it?
Let’s fix the WRC ourselves
It may exist but what kind of credibility does a company generate by spamming rally forums with stupidly written one-off posts? They've succeeded in bringing the name to people's attention, just for the wrong reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
There's now another update on Rally Sweden website ;
TV issue still alive
Still a bit of work needs done yet
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Originally Posted by satnav
And still no Extreme Video in the picture!
The fact that we do not have a promoter might also lead to some good things as well...for example teams and drivers might use incar cameras that are actually exciting (like the ford testing helmet cams and the ostberg one) instead of those MTV3 onboard specials which although they did a good job (all credit to them)as far as quality goes and selection of stages the position of the cameras was horrendous....
Lets wait and see...
Darkstar and rallymedia.nl should form a company and go to that fat midget and ask for a budget to cover the events from now on...add some Pluto and his fantastic autosport.cz for service interviews.... split the revenue of the WRC media rights when a country buys the footage....they get rich, we get top coverage from people who are passionate about the sport...the fat midget will cry and i will be happy.
They have been plugging that for the last week and also the three rally days nightly shows. But their Monte coverage was Eurosport video (with different commentator days 2 to 5). Euosport are unlikely to be at Sweden so what will Motors show?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I want to ask a hypothetical questions. If, God forbids, the WRC ceases to exist, will the IRC become the top-rally championship? Maybe Eurosport are waiting for the demise of the of the classic series in order to lure top-teams into their own championship?
Demise? Is the IRC that is on his last season, not WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Next year IRC and ERC will be together, so if anyone ceases is IRC.
I have no doubt thar Eurosport tryed to obtain something big to be a WRC promoter. But FIA decide not give them something so big.
Eurosport was not able to make IRC survive, Eurosport has in hands a championship that is declining (WTCC). These are thing to take in account. They do a good job, but they are extremely expensive.
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
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Originally Posted by JAM
IRC and ERC togheter in 2013???!!!! Wait another week... after you will know.... :) wait wait....
The website is definitely shoddy, looks like a high school kid chucked it together on his lunch break, which does beg the question of if the website is that bad, what's the rest like. And the consistent spamming was ridiculous. But in all fairness the link oph shared did seem hopeful, he has worked within the WRC before. But who knows?! It's likely to go to Eurosport as they're already more well known, and if not, my previous suggestion of Go Pro cams in the roll cage and hand helds on track side :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I am sorry if I have involuntarily amused the rally fans here with an uneducated question, but I admit that I follow circuit racing more closely than rally, although I do enjoy both WRC and IRC. I was not aware that IRC is in dire situation, as JAM said, I thought that the live coverage of the stages boosted its popularity, when the WRC clearly struggles with no promoter in the moment. Maybe I was wrong and I will be happy if someone has the patience to explain to me the situation with the two championships and their popularity.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
As a fan of touring car racing however, I am not sure that the WTCC is in decline. Last year we had a highly entertaining championship duel between Muller and Huff and the races were fun, although not as much as the BTCC. Now new manufacturers are entering the series as well as new teams and drivers. IMO it is a bit early to write off the WTCC.
On the other hand, maybe in these dark days every series suffers except maybe the glorious child of Mr. Ecclestone, Formula One. Look what mess is the WEC turning into, after the exodus of Peugeot...
But I am blabbering and have gone off topic, for which I am sorry. Still, I needed to share my thoughts. :)
The situation with IRC is not that it is going to die but that there have been talks between FIA and Eurosport to merge ERC and IRC to one championship having ERC name. The reasons are clearly logical - IRC covers mostly European events, has good media coverage and competition while European championship has an official FIA championship status (something IRC doesn't have) but almost no competition. Merging both into a strong European championship is a logical move but it needs to find agreement between FIA and Eurosport and I can imagine it can end same as with WRC.
Now I see. Sounds like a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Rally Sweden.
The rally got to get three million before lunch.
How much must the Swedish Rally Ltd have secured the revenues at lunchtime today that it will be broadcasting from the World Championship.
Almost three million dollars.
Source: Swedish newspaper.
Rallyt måste fixa tre miljoner före lunch | Värmlands Folkblad
Three million kronor says the article, is Swedish krona level with the dollar or?
I'm pretty sure that at some point I read somewhere earlier the number 300k Euros. Tried to search for the news I read it but couldn't find that number any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
Yes three million kronor which is about 300k€.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
I think you can split with 7. Aprox 300.000 €!
OK then it is still the same 300k that was mentioned a couple of days ago, so no changes there then.
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Rally Coverage this weekend in Sweden.
This Progam is already announced by SVT. Also found on this website Det blir tv från Svenska Rallyt! | Motorsport | Teknikens Värld
Thursday February 9:
22:45 to 23:15 SVT1: Before the Swedish Rally
Friday, February 10th:
22:45 to 23:15 SVT2: Swedish Rally, summary
Saturday, February 11th:
11:40 to 12:00 SVT1/Play/Mobil: Swedish Rally (included in the Winter Studio)
18:45 to 19:00 SVT1/Play/Mobil: Swedish Rally (included in the Winter Studio)
Sunday, February 12th:
12:25 to 12:40 SVT1/Play/Mobil: Swedish Rally (included in the Winter Studio)
16:00 to 16:10 SVT1/Play/Mobil: Swedish Rally (included in the Winter Studio)
22:45 to 23:40 SVT1: Swedish Rally, summary
Decision put on hold a few hours more
Utökad tidsfrist om TV-produktion « Rally Sweden
Rally Sweden finalises its own deal to keep event on international TV
By David Evans Tuesday, February 7th 2012, 16:53 GMT
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'The organisers of this week's Rally Sweden have confirmed there will be international television coverage of the event.
Event CEO Glenn Olsson concluded a deal on Tuesday afternoon to ensure that the second round of the World Rally Championship will be filmed with footage available across the world.
Motors TV is expected to screen the footage in the UK, with nightly reports and a round-up on Sunday afternoon.
Olsson said: "We are doing this for all our fans to save the championship and its organisers and teams, and not least for our own sake and our sponsors. This is a multi-million [euro] project and, as we are not ready with the economics, this is very hazardous for us."
Scandinavian fans are well-covered this year. Terrestrial deals are already in place for Sweden, Norway and Denmark, although these will have to be renegotiated now with each round of the series.
This is the first time in 20 years that an individual round of the WRC has negotiated its own television rights. The FIA stated late last week that events would have to do this following the break down in negotiations with Eurosport - the French firm which had been expected to film and distribute WRC footage throughout 2012.'
Great news that there will be coverage :) , but a shame its not gonna be on Eurosport with its better commentators and HD channel :(
See below
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International TV coverage of the 2012 Swedish Rally will go ahead, though there is still not enough money to cover the costs.
The Rally had called for support from the FIA, manufacturers and sponsors as it sought to create the TV package, following the decision by the FIA to hand back responsibility for television to the events on Friday night.
The Finnish Filmworks company will now produce the TV highlights and news feeds, and distribute these around the world.
The go-ahead comes after 4 days of frantic work by the organisers, led by Glenn Olsson, Chief Executive of Rally Sweden.
Other rallies in the series will breathe a sigh of relief: if the Swedish TV coverage had not happened, broadcasters might have given up altogether on the WRC.
But Sweden is still seeking commitments on all sides, and it is being stressed that this is being done in the interests of the sport.
Tue, 14 Feb 2012
The FIA is confident that it will nail down international television coverage for the World Rally Championship this week.
Following the loss of North One Sport as promoter and the subsequent collapse of talks with Eurosport, there had been grave concerns for footage from this year's series. Eurosport agreed a deal with the organisers of the Monte Carlo Rally and Finnish firm Filmworks did the same with last week's Rally Sweden.
The ideal scenario is the central distribution and sales of television coverage of the whole WRC. It's known that a deal had been made with ITV4 for more comprehensive coverage of WRC in 2012 and it's this kind of deal that the FIA is hoping it can achieve again for this season. Individual events have now been told to stop working with local broadcasters.
With an FIA-sanctioned deal ready to be signed this week, there are fears that, having been told by the FIA that the television rights to their events belong to the rallies, some event organisers will complete multi-year agreements with local stations and weaken the FIA's position to attract a series-wide promoter.
WRC Commission president Jarmo Mahonen told AUTOSPORT: "The television should be okay. I can't go to details, but we are working to the plans to have central distribution - we should come out with these plans in the next few days."
Mahonen admitted that the production of television wasn't a concern, adding: "That's the small part on this game. The big thing is about the distribution and maintaining the broadcasters [around the world]. Our aim is to plan and find a system very quickly for the central distribution of footage."
Asked if the FIA could distribute footage, Mahonen replied: "That is one possibility or you put it out to agencies there are several agencies around the world who can do this."
Rally Sweden distributed the coverage it underwrote at a cost of 300,000 to 30 broadcasters, ensuring the Jari-Matti Latvala's victory on the Karlstad-based event was seen in more than 120 territories last week.
IMG McCormick, Extreme Video, Al Jazeera, any other hats rumoured to be in the ring?
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The IMG McCormick link is interesting considering the amount of money blown in end of year big prize golf tournaments
Mark McCormack died quite some time ago, so I can't see his personal influence having much impact!