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12th July 2009, 12:39
Camelopard

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Originally Posted by Barreis

XD x 15

meaning what exactly?
29th July 2009, 11:08
A.F.F.

Latvala stated his biggest lesson now is how to lose.

Makes me wonder did he really think he had the chance to win Rally Poland at the start of that last stage :confused:
29th July 2009, 14:24
noel157

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Latvala stated his biggest lesson now is how to lose.

Makes me wonder did he really think he had the chance to win Rally Poland at the start of that last stage :confused:

How to lose? He's already perfected that....
I guess you mean (or he means) is how not to lose?
29th July 2009, 14:42
driveace

Latvala

he just might surprise you all this weekend !
29th July 2009, 15:07
RS

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Originally Posted by driveace

he just might surprise you all this weekend !

I don't know, I presume he won't be allowed to win anyway so maybe he will just hold station behind the top 2?
29th July 2009, 18:56
A.F.F.

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Originally Posted by noel157

How to lose? He's already perfected that....
I guess you mean (or he means) is how not to lose?

No, he means to lose. The biggest problem for Latvala has been that he don't know how to lose, therefore cannot act like a second driver for the team. Now he claims he knows how not to drive for the win but for the second or third...
29th July 2009, 20:37
Wim_Impreza

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Originally Posted by driveace

he just might surprise you all this weekend !

With another accident. In the previous years in Neste Oil Rally Finland, he had usually a big accident too.
29th July 2009, 22:47
noel157

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

No, he means to lose. The biggest problem for Latvala has been that he don't know how to lose, therefore cannot act like a second driver for the team. Now he claims he knows how not to drive for the win but for the second or third...

Ah, he now knows how to support his team leader? Ok.
We shall see.
3rd August 2009, 22:34
driveace

Latvala

There you go,team driver!.got ahead of Sordo too !
Get behind the guy,he is only young,and a bit headstrong
3rd August 2009, 22:40
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by driveace

There you go,team driver!.got ahead of Sordo too !
Get behind the guy,he is only young,and a bit headstrong

if a finn couldnt get infront of a tarmac 'expert' in finland, he would have been hung, drawn and quartered.

... by the finns!
3rd August 2009, 23:12
A.F.F.

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Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

if a finn couldnt get infront of a tarmac 'expert' in finland, he would have been hung, drawn and quartered.

... by the finns!

:up:

What Latvala did was a minimum. I don't get all the drama around him?? He should be at least third in every rally.
4th August 2009, 00:41
gloomyDAY

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

:up:

What Latvala did was a minimum. I don't get all the drama around him?? He should be at least third in every rally.

Yep!

JML shows consistency and this thread will get locked.
4th August 2009, 01:35
A.F.F.

What's taking so long Mark? Lock the thread !
4th August 2009, 08:14
macksrallye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

if a finn couldnt get infront of a tarmac 'expert' in finland, he would have been hung, drawn and quartered.

... by the finns!

For someone who's confidence was non-existant before the rally, who then got food poisening & felt ill all of saturday & in an age where the cars are damn near the same so it's insanely difficult to make up time on one another, I think he did bloody well.
25th October 2009, 20:08
Langdale Forest

Latvala spun on the last day of rally GB and in doing so proved what a showoff he is.
25th October 2009, 20:37
N.O.T

you all miss the point with him

Latvala has winning speed but he crashes often.... the hard part from my point of view to be successful in the WRC is to have the speed , reliability comes 80% of the times through experience.

Name a driver in the WRC over the years that had the speed but never managed something in the sport....there is none. and name also someone who never had the speed but had the reliability and achieved anything....
25th October 2009, 20:44
Lousada

"The only man who can beat Loeb" finished behind Loeb 10 times. Behind Hirvonen 10 times, behind Sordo 8 times, behind P Solberg 5 out of 10 rallies, behind H Solberg 5 times plus they both scored 0 in Cyprus.
25th October 2009, 20:58
Wim_Impreza

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Yep!

JML shows consistency and this thread will get locked.

I think you are wrong in this conclusion. Even the years 2007 and 2008 were better for Latvala than this year.
25th October 2009, 21:46
N.O.T

do you remeber a guy called mikko hirvonen in his first official team ???

i sure had some very fun times in here with his driving....
25th October 2009, 21:56
Francis44

Ford hasn't won the Manufacter title because of him so he must get his stuff straight for next season.
25th October 2009, 22:01
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Francis44

Ford hasn't won the Manufacter title because of him so he must get his stuff straight for next season.

thats true, he screwed up the fight for the manu title, many seem to complaine, but actually there is noboby fast enough who could replace him.
25th October 2009, 22:11
snellman

he have to take it easy get experience then slowly turn up the speed which he's got lot's of
25th October 2009, 22:21
Tomi

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Originally Posted by snellman

he have to take it easy get experience then slowly turn up the speed which he's got lot's of

Easier said than done, everyone who has something to do with him, try to put down the expectations on him before events, anyway he somehow take too much pressure, its just to be patient and wait that he begin to stay between the ditches.
25th October 2009, 22:27
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Easier said than done, everyone who has something to do with him, try to put down the expectations on him before events, anyway he somehow take too much pressure, its just to be patient and wait that he begin to stay between the ditches.

How much longer Tomi? It's been 7 years now of much of the same thing.
25th October 2009, 22:27
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

thats true, he screwed up the fight for the manu title, many seem to complaine, but actually there is noboby fast enough who could replace him.

Petter Solberg.
25th October 2009, 22:28
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

How much longer Tomi? It's been 7 years now of much of the same thing.

You better ask Wilson, i have nothing to do with their arrangements.
25th October 2009, 22:29
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

Petter Solberg.

I have a feeling that Wilsons quote of past chamipons is full.
25th October 2009, 22:36
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

You better ask Wilson, i have nothing to do with their arrangements.

'Arrangement' is a perfect word for Latvala's place within the Ford Team.

There would be nothing like going back to good old logic.. like picking the best drivers available for the job in hand. Mikko and Petter would be title contenders.
25th October 2009, 22:38
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

I have a feeling that Wilsons quote of past chamipons is full.

The selection of drivers, whoever has had ultimate choice, has not best served Ford in the past decade.
25th October 2009, 22:38
cut the b.s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

thats true, he screwed up the fight for the manu title, many seem to complaine, but actually there is noboby fast enough who could replace him.

Speed isnt all that important if Ford wanted to replace Latvala, there are a few drivers who could compete with Sordo and keep it on the road.
Whatever JML may become he is an awful No2 driver which is what he has been meant to be to the Ford team this past 2 seasons
25th October 2009, 22:38
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

'Arrangement' is a perfect word for Latvala's place within the Ford Team.

There would be nothing like going back to good old logic.. like picking the best drivers available for the job in hand. Mikko and Petter would be title contenders.

aah, im not so sure about that, petter would be 40 something before he gets used to the car.
25th October 2009, 22:39
cut the b.s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

'Arrangement' is a perfect word for Latvala's place within the Ford Team.

There would be nothing like going back to good old logic.. like picking the best drivers available for the job in hand. Mikko and Petter would be title contenders.

Or Mikko and PGA if you want to 'invest' for the future
25th October 2009, 22:43
Tomi

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Originally Posted by cut the b.s.

Speed isnt all that important if Ford wanted to replace Latvala, there are a few drivers who could compete with Sordo and keep it on the road.
Whatever JML may become he is an awful No2 driver which is what he has been meant to be to the Ford team this past 2 seasons

Really is there?, I can think of only 1, Atkinson, its a pity that there still is no britton who could reguary finish in top 5, the seat would be his long time ago, for sure.
25th October 2009, 23:00
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Really is there?, I can think of only 1, Atkinson, its a pity that there still is no britton who could reguary finish in top 5, the seat would be his long time ago, for sure.

You are not going to draw me on that Tomi. Wilson has his own agenda when it comes to British drivers.

He doesn't invest in home talent like Citroen.. he would rather 'invest' a pertcentage of Finland's hard earned GDP in Finnish drivers.

A British driver will get his chance in the near furture.., and slap it up Ford is its with another manufactuer.
26th October 2009, 07:23
RS

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Originally Posted by Tomi

aah, im not so sure about that, petter would be 40 something before he gets used to the car.

Hmmm, I know you have a problem with Petter but he only scored 6 less points than JML this year despite missing two events and driving an old Xsara most of the year.
26th October 2009, 08:13
Finni

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Originally Posted by RS

Hmmm, I know you have a problem with Petter but he only scored 6 less points than JML this year despite missing two events and driving an old Xsara most of the year.

And Petter was faster in both events when he was driving C4. There is no slightest doubt about Petter's ability to sweep the floor with Latvala. I also reckon that Petter would be at least match to Hirvonen. It also has to be reckoned that starting from the second loop of the second day Petter was only marginally slower than the top-two - occasionally as fast.
26th October 2009, 09:19
Tomi

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Originally Posted by RS

Hmmm, I know you have a problem with Petter but he only scored 6 less points than JML this year despite missing two events and driving an old Xsara most of the year.

Not really with Petter, but its true i dont like the bull and whining, his fans seem to think he still is on the edge and has problem to see that thats not the case, LOL, a month something ago some even did speak about him winning in GB, and how GB is his best event, truth is that he propably would have finished in same position even with the Xara.
Also better to wait until he has a works seat, then the talks about how he beats who ever or is even with who ever becomes relevant, until that, its normally right after the start the cars fault if he cant keep in pace, or even more funny, he is not used to the car, ok there is drivers and DRIVERS, the DRIVERS does result even with limited testing.
26th October 2009, 09:37
ShiftingGears

Latvala is wasting a manufacturer seat.
26th October 2009, 09:57
I am evil Homer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Really is there?, I can think of only 1, Atkinson, its a pity that there still is no britton who could reguary finish in top 5, the seat would be his long time ago, for sure.

Aside from IRC champion Kris Meeke you mean?! Kris' biggest problem is his surname because Matty Wilson is a joke.
26th October 2009, 09:58
Buzz Lightyear

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Not really with Petter, but its true i dont like the bull and whining, his fans seem to think he still is on the edge and has problem to see that thats not the case, LOL, a month something ago some even did speak about him winning in GB, and how GB is his best event, truth is that he propably would have finished in same position even with the Xara.
Also better to wait until he has a works seat, then the talks about how he beats who ever or is even with who ever becomes relevant, until that, its normally right after the start the cars fault if he cant keep in pace, or even more funny, he is not used to the car, ok there is drivers and DRIVERS, the DRIVERS does result even with limited testing.

At least he keeps it on the island when "learning" the car.

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