...it is now.
A shame, but at least everybody knows where they stand now and Silverstone can get on with hammering out a deal - hopefully.
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...it is now.
A shame, but at least everybody knows where they stand now and Silverstone can get on with hammering out a deal - hopefully.
in theory. If there is no British GP next year, it will be a travesty. just like the travesty of no French or american grands prix....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
But thats Bernie. :rolleyes: Hopefully, a deal will be done. and really, anyone surprised that Donnington isnt happening?
I'd actually put up with there not being a 2010 British GP *if* it gave Silverstone some time to upgrade its facilities and put in place some solid financial guarantees so that it would keep the GP for the forseeable future.
Todt has pledged to look at the French GP situation (but please Jean, not Mangy Cours!), and hopefully he'd be willing to do the same for Silverstone if necessary.
Sadly, what's happened to Donington is what many predicted when the move was announced so tactfully at the British GP last year. There were doubts then that this wouldn't happen and hey presto...it won't be happening!Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
The worry is that Donington was simply used by Bernie as a stick to get Silverstone to agree to his terms, with the alternative being no British GP. We now have Bernie saying he wants a British GP and that a deal can be done with Silverstone. I certainly hope so.
i hope so to. and quite frankly, i hope Jean Todt will have a word to bernie about his money grabbing and stupid ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
and hopefully like Dave said Jean will get involved with the French GP situation, most probably at the new circuit near paris which is currently in construction and the name of which i forget.
I also hope that Donington hasn't been ruined for other series, but judging by the pictures herethere's plenty of work to be done. :(
http://images.gpupdate.net/large/139577.jpg
Bernie has just told the BBC's Theodore Slotover that Silverstone have already been offered a better deal than anybody else, and that it's up to them to find the money or not have the race.
That's virtually a given, Bernie is a shrewd little business man and I would have thought that the deal offered to Silverstone is lengthy but extremely harshQuote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Oh god - I thought that was a Photoshop-ed picture! There's a lot of work to be done to get that ready for the touring cars.
Glad to see someone changed the thread name to be a bit more accurate. I seem to remember I put a question mark on the end originally.. quite appropriate it seems :)
well I think given the curren economic climate, it is Bernie who has gambled and los. No British GP in 2010 is going to be a huge stain on F1 and hopefully a trunig pointin the ridivculous dealing sof Bernie. Perhaps the fIA will decide to negotiate the deal themsleves without Bernie.
First Canada gets to come back to the calendar at a reasonable rate, i suspect Silverstone will follow, and then the Germans will follow suit and negotiate a better rate.
The era of super-pricey, money squeezing, highly unreasonable, financially unreasonable F1 deals is coming to a close. If that means no F1 in England next year to drive home the point, then I can live with that. Just like FOTA, I think that many of these tracks need to organize some sort of association in order to position themselves stronger and finally make proper demands of Bernie's mads schemes.
This credit Bernie gets for making F1 a premiere series (again) has now run out.
Bernie's given Silverstone 48 hours to put up or shut up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...lverstone-2010
Tick, tock, Clarice...
So Silverstone is faced with having F1 and being financially crippled because of it. Or not having F1 in the UK at all. :mark:
A pretty typical Bernie-type stance :dozey: I'm guessing both F1 and Silverstone want this sorted from the point of view of the 2010 calendar and tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
From what Damon Hill was saying on the Beeb's red button after the race a comparatively small amount of money can make a big difference to whether the race is viable for Silverstone or not. I'm hoping a few quid doesn't break the deal!
bernie has built F1. no question. he has raised the profile of F1 significantly and made the whole thing better for the teams involved etc.
but, the silverstone debacle is proof he has gone too far. why should any track pay the ridiculous prices bernie charges? and then that HAS to be put on the fans to keep the tracks in business, which means lower attendances.
bernie has lost it. hes a hinderence. its one reason why we have ended up with dull tracks for dull races-most located in asia.
the collapse of F1 would certainly be no bad thing for grand prix racing.
all this turmoil makes me wish that FOTa had stuck to their guns and formed a breakaway series.
With revenue sharing and transparent contracts, a nice mix of old an new tracks and a fan friendly reasonable rate for attendance to sells out every venue. As of right now we have a series that is too pricey for the fans, completely unbalanced in terms of revenues for the teams, secretive contracts, ever changing draconian regulations, and many self inflicted wounds that scare off major sponsors. ( both spy gate and crash gate were unnecessary investigations IMO). So now we are left with useless new entries that only got there on the cheap and through blackmail, and cars that inspire little and still don't promote overtaking.
Now we have tracks pulling out, the only tire supplier pulling out, 3 prestigious teams pulling out ( with maybe Renault joining them) and a driver asked to not drive for the sum of $45million. And a team that won the WDC and WCC by dubious methods.
Quelle surprise :rolleyes: :
Full story: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/...dministration/Quote:
The company which held the lease over the Donington Park motor racing circuit has entered administration.
The affairs of Donington Ventures Leisure Limited (“DVLL” ;) are being handled by partners Nigel Price, John Kelly and James Martin from the Birmingham office of corporate recovery specialists Begbies Traynor.
...
Mr Price said Begbies Traynor was still assessing how much was owed to creditors.
I am gutted for Donnington. Seeing it bulldozed and empty... and now broke. I've been going to that track since I was tiny. I really hope it can be restored to it's former glory. It was a lovely, fan-friendly track and I have my fingers crossed all will come good in the end.
Fully agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Yeah, what a disaster! Hopefully someone like MSV will take over the track and bring it back to its former glory.Quote:
Originally Posted by slinkster
As you say it has always been quite a good place to spectate with the banking alongside the Craner curves giving an excellent view of the track. Even though when I was last there the road access and toilets were terrible!
Although I have to say, Silverstone is the proper home of Formula 1 in the UK, nowhere else is set up for it properly. Even Donington after the works wouldn't have been to the same standard as Silverstone, despite what Bernie thinks.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80238
Bernie is really getting on my nerves!
Damon Hill is right that Bernie could care less what happens to the financial stability of Silverstone. Look at how Donington is just one big mess! Legendary tracks are not safe and I'm not a fan of the new tracks either.
Stupid old goat. Here, Bernie, let me demonstrate what I mean:
Silverstone > Singabore
Spa > Dabu Dabi
Monza > Bah(gargling sound)rain
The Ring > Borelencia
Someone (might have been Joe Saward) pointed out that assuming Ross Brawn and Nick Fry are liable for capital gains tax on the money they'd have made from the Mercedes deal, the money they'd be putting into the treasury would be enough to secure the British Grand Prix for several years to come.
Come on Gordon: you're going to lose anyway, you might as well at least make a few friends before you disappear!
Give it up, Simon, give it up and go away.
Full story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...-simon-gillettQuote:
Donington Park still has the potential to host next year's British grand prix, according to the circuit's leasing company's chief executive Simon Gillett.
Encouragingly the story does indicate that Silverstone might be on the brink of a new 10-year deal :D
Jesus H Christ Simon! Does schizophrenia run in the family? Donny is a muddy hole and its all your fault you blithering idiot!
Monday is decision day, then:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80437Quote:
The fate of the British Grand Prix will be announced on Monday, with Silverstone management and track owner the British Racing Drivers' Club scheduling a press conference about the future of the event.
Fingers crossed.
hope silverstone gets it
Well, looks like some people think its already a done deal:
http://www.singaporegp.org/formula-o...ix-silverstone
But then again, that same site is also running a story with the line "It seems that Force India F1 owner Vijay Mallya is going on a hunt for F1 first ever woman driver." So make of it what you will...
so they did - for the next 17 years...... hmmm, a bit like donington got it for 10? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha
So do I :up: One of the top 5 F1 tracks IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha
http://www.donington-park.co.uk/
"The website you have requested is unavailable."
:(
Much like the track...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80674
At least the lease now returns to the wheatcroft family - perhaps they can rebuild the circuit at least to allow national and club events next season.
What I am hoping is that no one wanted to deal with Gillet or give him a single penny. So hopefully now they have gone tits up people will be willing to take on the track and deal with the wheatcroft family again.
Bernie really should be the one to fix up the track the evil dwarf. If he was such a good freind of Tom's its the least he can do.
Simon Gillet is an utter 2@
I hope nobody ever does business with that man ever again
Some good news, hopefully:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80753Quote:
Donington Park's owning family has said it is committed to reopening the racetrack as soon as possible following the collapse of its Formula 1 bid and the lease-holding company.
"We have been assessing what is required to put things back as they were. We reckon this will cost in the region of about £600,000, but to get it up to grand prix standard you could add a couple of zeroes.
"We want to get the place operational again. Hopefully we can get up and running again as soon as possible."
Great news. Does anyone know what sort of changes have already been made? Presumably they aren't going to actually put things back 'as they were' but make good as best they can the works that have already been done.Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
Hopefully the likes of MSV will take it on.
Glad to hear they are going to return the track to operational status asap - assuming finance xan be secured.
Green shoots for Donny
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/8455199.stm
Not really F1-related anymore, but still... http://www.savedonington.co.uk/
An amazing effort to get Donny back to a fit state.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Anyone going to get up there?