Would the People who Defended Nigel Stepney's Credibiity please Stand Up?

No! Seriously, Like every other Constitutional Democracy, and Republic, their is one commonality in their legal systems.
In a criminal trial the plaintiff AKA "The People" really are represented by one team consisting of the District Attorney,
or a Prosecuting Attorney, their investigators, and the police! I have a sibling that is an attorney that only handles felonies.
I've heard some pretty good stories about police miss-conduct.
This is eerily reminiscent to what that N@$! Mark Furman did to put the kibosh on the O.J. case! This police statement is counterproductive, and only serves their case in the court of public opinion. I think what is more telling is the silence of McLaren's defense. (And believe me they have been hammered for statements, and reactions to statements, by the opposition) by the press.
IMO, this can only means they have a very weak case, and are waiting to plea out! Or, more likely they have a strong defense, or at least perceive they do!
McLaren would not retain poor legal representation! As witnesses these big mouth cops may be grated down to
Pamisan Reggiono upon cross-examination by Signora Bertolino, who I suspect is as slick as extra virgin olive oil.
While on the subject of salad dressing, I think the McLaren supporters should, as a show of solidarity, and/or protest
boycott balsamic vinegar! As every cook worth his spices knows, authentic balsamic vinegar states quit prominently on it's label
"Balsamic Vineger of Modena" If it doesn't, it is not the real Guacamole!
I'm out of here chief! :)

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Originally Posted by Tazio

This is eerily reminiscent to what that N@$! Mark Furman did to put the kibosh on the O.J. case!

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Actually, there is some belief that O.J. was framed provided by Joe Frank (http://joefrank.com/index.html) in his episode, "The O.J. Chronicles." It seems, according to Mr. Frank, that Ron Goldman and Nichole Smith were paid a large sum of money to commit suicide while framing O.J. ;)

Back on topic - My only wish from this whole stupid affair is to hear the truth. (I know - who's "truth"?)

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Actually, there is some belief that O.J. was framed provided by Joe Frank (http://joefrank.com/index.html) in his episode, "The O.J. Chronicles." It seems, according to Mr. Frank, that Ron Goldman and Nichole Smith were paid a large sum of money to commit suicide while framing O.J. ;)

Back on topic - My only wish from this whole stupid affair is to hear the truth. (I know - who's "truth"?)

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"The truth!
You can't handle the truth!" :D

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Originally Posted by Tazio

"The truth!
You can't handle the truth!" :D

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I don't know...I'd have to hear it once!

Have a butchers at this;

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65557

Here's a snippet.....

[quote="Autosport"]Reacting to the FIA's statement, Stepney said today he was "delighted that the FIA have backed down" from their threat to ban him from motorsport but criticised the fact it took the FIA several months to reach this conclusion.

"They may want to do some due diligence themselves before simply accepting one side of the story," Stepney said in a statement released by his lawyers in the UK.

According to the statement, Stepney himself "admits that a former McLaren engineer and friend of 20 years had obtained very limited information as a result of his carelessness".

"Frankly, I should have known better," Stepney was quoted as saying. "But it sure as hell wasn't the 780-page dossier the FIA saw, and which I've just been shown for the first time by the Italian authorities."

Stepney is under criminal investigation in Italy for suspected industrial espionage against his then-employers Ferrari, but the veteran mechanic has maintained throughout his innocence in the matter, denying he gave McLaren then-chief designer Mike Coughlan a dossier of 780 pages, containing confidential Ferrari information.

Sian Nath, of Stepney's UK law firm Coyle White Devine, said: "It should be noted that Mr Stepney has never admitted any dishonest intention. The FIA is fully aware of that.

"Our client blew the whistle on certain matters to FIA officials]

Is it perhaps time for some people to sit back down?

Can't wait for the book, If I were Ferrari and the FIA I might be getting a little dry in the throat right now.

No doub't it'll transpire that in fact, Renault had more McLaren info than McLaren had of Ferrari........

If I were Max, right now I'd be amassing paddles and leaving them close by to every known creek on the planet. :p :

"According to the statement, Stepney himself 'admits that a former McLaren engineer and friend of 20 years had obtained very limited information as a result of his carelessness' ".

Carelessness?

Now, to me, carelessness is shutting the front door then realizing that I haven't got a key.

Apparently, according to Mr Stepney, 'Carelessness' means contacting the Chief Designer of his teams main rivals and giving them "very limited information" about his employer.

Presumably he also thinks that Peter Sutcliffe wasn't a murderer, just 'careless' with his knife in the presence of prostitutes?

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Originally Posted by tamburello

"According to the statement, Stepney himself 'admits that a former McLaren engineer and friend of 20 years had obtained very limited information as a result of his carelessness' ".

Carelessness?

Now, to me, carelessness is shutting the front door then realizing that I haven't got a key.

Apparently, according to Mr Stepney, 'Carelessness' means contacting the Chief Designer of his teams main rivals and giving them "very limited information" about his employer.

Presumably he also thinks that Peter Sutcliffe wasn't a murderer, just 'careless' with his knife in the presence of prostitutes?

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I can't help but think the 'info referred to' was passed over during the 'proof of illegal moving floor' whistleblowing incident that the FIA (and indeed Ferrari themselves) ignored. Took McLaren asking to run said system to get it banned.

One thing modern day F1 has taught me, it's how to be a proper cynic! ;)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I can't help but think the 'info referred to' was passed over during the 'proof of illegal moving floor' whistleblowing incident

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Fair point, but I still can't quite understand the 'Carelessness' claim.

If it was 'Whistleblowing', then why not say that and use it as a defence?

'Carelessness' just sounds like the claims of a deluded individual and gives yet more credence to the belief that Stepney did indeed 'lose his mind'.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I can't help but think the 'info referred to' was passed over during the 'proof of illegal moving floor' whistleblowing incident that the FIA (and indeed Ferrari themselves) ignored. Took McLaren asking to run said system to get it banned.

One thing modern day F1 has taught me, it's how to be a proper cynic! ;)

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Let's not open the "whistleblowing" can of worms again!

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Presumably he also thinks that Peter Sutcliffe wasn't a murderer, just 'careless' with his knife in the presence of prostitutes?

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It's a shame that such a spurious analogy should be introduced in this context :down:

Sadly this seems to be the way that Stepney is to be portrayed in some quarters while the case against him is being investigated. Assumptions, presumptions, inferences have all played a big part in Spygate, and fact tends to get lost along the way. If you're guilty of something, anything, then your guilty of everything seems to be the way it works :dozey: