Alonso and Massa

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24th July 2007, 13:39
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding of a certain N Stepney's role within Ferrari prior to MS leaving, is that he was a contributory factor to the development of an ethos that meant quality control and an attention to the minutae of the manufacturing & construction process resulted in Ferrari's legendary reliability.

It is not Kimi that is causing the car to break, it is that Ferrari were so short sighted to sack the one remaining guy that did the team any good.

I tell you, that team will self destruct and become the useless joke that they were in the late eighties/early nineties - you can see it has already begun.

I hate to agree with you on this one but Ferrari does seem to be on one of their imploding phases at the moment. they still have the potential to change it but from what Ive heard, the positive, constructive culture of excellence and self belief is rapidly being replaced by paranoia and a blame culture. they are wound up like a spring and people are watching their backs instead of looking forward.
24th July 2007, 14:01
jas123f1

Why not only congratulate Alonso for his brilliant race?

Honestly - Massa had nothing to put against Alonso this time, it was only a question of time even if Massa was driving very defensive and really trying to keep Alonso behind him. When it’s a question of a wet race Alonso is a much better driver of them two. I think sometimes we must admit the facts (although it may be difficult for some people).

OK i understand also very well why Massa was that disappointed after leading the race only 5 laps left and then lose everything in that way, it must be hard to accept. However it was absolutely unnecessary to try to close the door that late - I’m sorry to say this but Massa doesn’t look as a world champion to me (even if i can say that he is a good driver), but there is too much instability, it's not enough to drive good races from pole and without any disturbing traffic. I think he even speaks too much b*** s***, it gives only a feeling that he is out of balance (too often), it’s not enough to play nice in the sunshine. I must say he makes me a bit disappointed with his behaviours.. My tip is that Alonso or Kimi will be the champion 2007, not Hamilton or Massa. (imo :) )
24th July 2007, 14:12
ioan

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding of a certain N Stepney's role within Ferrari prior to MS leaving, is that he was a contributory factor to the development of an ethos that meant quality control and an attention to the minutae of the manufacturing & construction process resulted in Ferrari's legendary reliability.

I'll correct you. This is what Stepney had to do after MS left.
24th July 2007, 20:24
Ian McC

I see Massa is getting a hard time from the Italian press

http://www.crash.net/news_view~cid~1~id~151800.htm
24th July 2007, 20:27
Ian McC

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Originally Posted by ioan

I can't decide which one is worse Hamilton or Alonso fanboyism! :rolleyes:

Seems that most fans defend the driver they support, some a little too much, surely you can appreciate that? ;)
24th July 2007, 20:47
jens

I really enjoyed their battle. :) I hoped that clearly slower Massa can do "Senna-Monaco-1992" and keep Alonso behind him till the end. Although Felipe was struggling in the wet, he was driving very agressively and defensively and I enjoyed every bit of his racing. But his blocking didn't work forever and the inevitable had to happen. Massa and Alonso banged wheels for twice and it was surprising that neither of them had problems afterwards. But all credit to Alonso - an incredible drive at the end and he has proved once again, why he has won championships. Just a few races back it looked like he had lost it and Hamilton was going to win, but as it has turned out - never underestimate the Spaniard!

And the row between FA and FM... IMO it only adds spice to F1, so no complaining from me! ;)
Not surprising that tight title battle is heating up the nerves of guys from southern countries. :s mokin:
24th July 2007, 20:58
Hendersen

I-a am-a the-a great-a Alonso. I-a can-a pull-a out-a in front-a you-a, but you-a no-a pull-a out-a in-a front-a me-a. I can-a touch-a you-a car-a, but you-a can-a no-a touch-a me-a car-a. Capiche, Massa?
24th July 2007, 21:08
donKey jote

:dozey:
24th July 2007, 21:27
race aficionado

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

:dozey:

Donks . . . . tough crowd out there, huh?

They have kept you busy.

The way I see it, Fernando Alonso is showing why he is two times champion, the man that dethroned the MS King and the man that is proving to all why he has the crown in his possesion right now.

I am enjoying this F1 year even though my main man is not around to mix things up - and I am enjoying it because I am a fan of FA, Kimi, Massa and of course, the great spark and talent that is Lewis Hamilton.

There is still alot of bitterness out there coming from certain forum friends now that Michael is busy sabotaging Kimi - it's a joke already! :mad: :D - any way, I'm glad your man Fernado is up there causing trouble and establishing himself as a front runner.

pa' dentro y pa' delante!

:s mokin:
24th July 2007, 21:44
donKey jote

cheers race :wave:
I'm also enjoying this F1 year even though their main man isn't around to mix things up ( big boohoo ;) :p : ).

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

They have kept you busy.

Well I've done my fair share of stirring and gloating too :devil:
Now where have I put those dancing bananas ?
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