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Alonso will certainly be fired up for Spain. As you say, it's his home race. And also he'll be determined to re-establish his #1 position within the team following Bahrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
However the race after that is Monaco... Can you imagine the reaction should that happen to be his first F1 win? "Rookie sensation takes F1's Jewel in the Crown" anyone?
actually there has been only 2 GP2 champs, Rosberg and Hamilton, and I think it's too early to know if a driver who has driven there is going to win a race, let's take count only Rosberg, Speed, Kovalainen and Hamilton(correct me if I'm missing one) have graduated to F1Quote:
Originally Posted by F1woman
That all depends on your definition of "graduated". Nelson Jr. is also a graduate of GP2 now in F1, although in a testing role.Quote:
Originally Posted by jso1985
It isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
What do you base this opinion on? To me, on the evidence of the three races so far, Ferrari seem quicker, but it would be interesting to know how you can state so categorically that the Ferrari isn't faster than the McLaren.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
At Australia Ferrari was faster by a little bit (around 3 tenths in racepace), I have explained in other threads already how going by fastest laps only is actually retarded and exposes ones lack of understanding of F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
At Malaysia it was clear that McLaren was actually the quicker car there.
So far 1:1
Then came Bahrain. In my view, McLaren and Ferrari were around equal. What do I base that on? Well, The Race. Hamilton in the first stint was quicker than Massa (who had some oversteering issues), but couldnt get pass. In the 2nd stint, it was Hamilton who struggled due to wrong tyre pressures that McLaren gave him and probably too much fuel, whereas Massa had a car working superbly. But what worked for Massas advantage now was that whereas in the first stint he could slow down Hamilton when LH was quicker, now Hamilton couldnt do anything against Massa who could run at his own pace. So they are pretty much equal. People got such distorted views after Melbourne that in the eyes of some, Ferrari became the best car for the whole season and they will stick to saying that even if it painfully obvious that isnt really the case. So speedwise, they are equal. Reliablity wise, McLaren has so far been better.
Thanks Garry, that's a better explaination of your "It isn't" opinion but it could have done without the "retarded" comment, because that kind of discussion helps no-one, least of all you.
I don't think many people would agree with you Garry in that McLaren have the faster car. I'd say the large majority of fans would agree with Arrows and 90% of this forum that Ferrari is the quicker car, as does 99% of the paddock. Malaysia Ferrari messed up in the race. Massa was in traffic all race, and the only time Kimi wasn't in traffic was during the 2nd stint, but Lewis fuelled short, and Kimi fuelled long, so couldn't make use of a quicker car. Australia, as you say, Ferrari were in a different league. In bahrain though things were much closer, but as you can see, Ferrari finished 1 & 3, McLaren 2 & 5. Qualifying was 1 & 3 for Ferrari, McLaren had 2 & 4 - I don't think it's hard to work out which team were quicker that weekend. If you want to look at the practice times as well, Ferrari were quicker in every practice, and all the Qualifiying sessions, bar one practice session on Sat morning, where Hamilton beat Kimi by 0.007!
As I say, it's quite clear to most Ferrari are the quicker team, but they've committed more mistakes, and haven't maxamised their resources like McLaren have so far.
About speed and reliability, I’d rather to put aside Sepang case, If only Massa can maintain his pole, didn’t make bad start that let two McLarens leading, and made mistake when trying to make overtaking Hamilton, we might have seen different result.
McLaren applied smart strategy at Sepang, there was no room for Kimi overtaking Hamilton, while Massa was unluckily locked behind Heidfeld. BMW isn’t as good as Ferrari but they aren’t also marked difference worse than Ferrari, which has made difficult overtaking of Massa on Heidfeld. Sepang was fully under control of McLaren.
As of this stage, Ferrari still better in term of speed and reliability although someday in this season to see the other way around isn’t something impossible. McLaren is only has shade difference right behind Ferrari which once they apply the right strategy and the race condition support their character, they will again win over the Ferrari. McLaren has solid drivers that has favored McLaren to be looked as a reliable car, Bahrain was evidence that Hamilton drove that strong, Alonso with a not too perfect car was able to reach finish lane safely.
How do you know that 99% of the paddock thinks Ferrari is the quickest car?Quote:
Originally Posted by raphael123
Considering Kimi fuelled long and LH short, thats exactly what should have helped KR show his quickness over the McLarens then. By keeping pace with LH, despite more fuel. But he couldnt at all. McLarens were in a different class that day. When Massa had clear air, and he did for a little while, then he wasnt able to go any quicker than FA or LH either or even nearly as quick. Also, sector times show that Ferraris were nowhere as good as the Maccas.Quote:
Malaysia Ferrari messed up in the race. Massa was in traffic all race, and the only time Kimi wasn't in traffic was during the 2nd stint, but Lewis fuelled short, and Kimi fuelled long, so couldn't make use of a quicker car.
just like McLarens were in a different league at Malaysia.Quote:
Australia, as you say, Ferrari were in a different league.
Practise times are irrelevant, especially FP1 and FP2. In qualifying, if im not mistaken then LH didnt improve on his 2nd try in the final qualy. But what counts is the race. I brought up some points from the race in my previous post in this thread and you havent countered them.Quote:
In bahrain though things were much closer, but as you can see, Ferrari finished 1 & 3, McLaren 2 & 5. Qualifying was 1 & 3 for Ferrari, McLaren had 2 & 4 - I don't think it's hard to work out which team were quicker that weekend. If you want to look at the practice times as well, Ferrari were quicker in every practice, and all the Qualifiying sessions, bar one practice session on Sat morning, where Hamilton beat Kimi by 0.007!
No, its not clear at all that Ferrari is the quicker car. They might be the quickest car at Spain, or they might not. Please dont let that distort your views on the previous races. I find that most people, when doing their analysis on the Malaysian race, were still mentally stuck in Australia and with blinders on kept going on about Ferrari being 1 second per lap quicker. There never was such thing this year, nor will there be such a thing this year.Quote:
As I say, it's quite clear to most Ferrari are the quicker team, but they've committed more mistakes, and haven't maxamised their resources like McLaren have so far.