LH says he made FM do that fault

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ron deserves enormous credit for 1) supporting LH's career the way he did for many years and 2) giving him the opportunity he has this year, particularly as it's not like McLaren to take a rookie on as a race driver. The last time they did was with Jan Magnussen back in '95.

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Indeed :up: Looks like his faith in LH will be repayed shortly.

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Originally Posted by luvracin

This is a circular discussion that will never end.

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Your problem here is that you are attempting to apply facts and sound logic to an original post that was primarily intended to smear a driver that has beaten one's fav driver/team.

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Originally Posted by longisland

For once i agreed with IOAN. LH doesn't derserve the half the credit he claimed. Massa was just being unlucky. I believed the real reason why Massa counldn't make that corner has more to do with the longer wheel base (4 inch to be exact) of the new car. A car designed by an ex-Mclaren Designer by the name of Nicholas Tombazis. The wheel base is too long it has to do a 3 point turn to over take a Mclaren and aero design that sucked up all the dirty air from the rear of a Mclaren not even Kimi can do anything about it. Wait a minute, Kimi's from Mclaren too. That means Massa & team red is realy facing and uphill battle. One against three on the grid. What an ingenious move by the ronster

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4 inches longer? The rules are very specific on the width of the car. So according to your statement the wheel base in not governed by the FIA rules. Is that correct?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ron deserves enormous credit for 1) supporting LH's career the way he did for many years and 2) giving him the opportunity he has this year, particularly as it's not like McLaren to take a rookie on as a race driver. The last time they did was with Jan Magnussen back in '95.

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And for spotting such talent at an early age, I bet Ron is feeling really smug right now.

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

I bet Ron is feeling really smug right now.

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That's his natural state of mind! ;)

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

4 inches longer? The rules are very specific on the width of the car. So according to your statement the wheel base in not governed by the FIA rules. Is that correct?

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No, no, wheelbase is the distance between the centre of the two wheels(lengthwise), and this F1 racing magazine tells me that the wheelbase of the F2007 is 100mm longer than the 248 F1. However I don't see that as an excuse for Massa's mistake at all.

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

4 inches longer? The rules are very specific on the width of the car. So according to your statement the wheel base in not governed by the FIA rules. Is that correct?

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I'm referrining to the distance between the front and the rear axles.

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Originally Posted by Malllen

You're speculating on what isn't there.

I'd say he just looked at it and thought of a more succint way he could've explained it.

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If you define "succinct" as "Ron-approved" I'd agree with you. You mean you don't think Ron controls what his drivers say? Have you heard any of the remarks from drivers leaving McLaren (from DC up to Kimi)?

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Originally Posted by longisland

For once i agreed with IOAN. LH doesn't derserve the half the credit he claimed. Massa was just being unlucky. I believed the real reason why Massa counldn't make that corner has more to do with the longer wheel base (4 inch to be exact) of the new car. A car designed by an ex-Mclaren Designer by the name of Nicholas Tombazis. The wheel base is too long it has to do a 3 point turn to over take a Mclaren...

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So what you are saying, in effect, is that Massa is incapable of driving an F1 car?

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

No, no, wheelbase is the distance between the centre of the two wheels(lengthwise), and this F1 racing magazine tells me that the wheelbase of the F2007 is 100mm longer than the 248 F1. However I don't see that as an excuse for Massa's mistake at all.

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and, ...

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Originally Posted by longisland

I'm referrining to the distance between the front and the rear axles.

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..., duh... I'm not questioning the width!!!! :) I'm asking if the FIA doesn't govern the wheel base of a car, as they do the width. Apparently they don't.