Is Fernando Alonso for real?

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11th April 2007, 10:32
raphael123

It's quite clear Hamilton has done a wonderful job. But Alonso is still definately the King. To state otherwise is absurb. Who knows what will happen by the end of the year.

As for Kimi, it's quite well known the technical aspect of F1 is his weak link. Peter Saubers has said it, and he's not reknown for his technical feedback during his time at McLaren.
11th April 2007, 10:41
Donney

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Originally Posted by Shalafi

I ment in Renault-times compared to Fisi who had a great difficulty to drive a car that was designed perfect for Alonso. Now when he is in a new team that made the car without Alonsos influence, rookie driver is very close to him when before the season all people thought that Hamilton would be a way behind Alonso. Im sure that if Mac had been developed like Renault, to perfectly suit Alonsos driving style, Hamilton wouldnt be nearly as close to him as he is right now.

I see your point, but Alonso was a winner with a car perfectly designed for him, and now is a winner driving a car which is not built around his unique driving style. To me that means very good driver.

BTW Hamilton is another very good driver and time will tell if he is better than Alonso which is not impossible.
11th April 2007, 10:42
Shalafi

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Originally Posted by samuratt

I am goingo to apply the same logic you are using to compare Alonso and Hamilton, but with M Shucmacher and Massa in 2006. Michael is god and Massa was a noob, but Massa did beat michael on two occasions, so therefore we must asumed that after a year learning the car he would have been able to beat Michael consistently in 2007. If Massa is better than Schumi, and hamilton is better than Massa (for what we saw at malasya)... then is only about time Hamilton is the best driver of the world, without winning a race yet. If Massa is greater than Schumi and Alonso is better than Massa, then Alonso is better than Schumi. I am geting a little bit confused... So the list for best drivers goes like this:
1. Hamilton
2 Alonso
3. Massa
4 Michale Schumacher

Do you really believe it? On the other hand if you do really think that this years Mclaren cars potential has a lot more to do with Raikkonen's input rather than Alonso's, the why McLKaren have been so crappy the last 5 years, while Kimi was their car developer¿?

That was the most confusing post I have seen for a long time...

But if you want my opinion... I think Kimi and Alonso are at the moment two best drivers, but I might of had either valued Alonso too high previously OR Hamilton is really, really brilliant driver.

Massa can be very quick at times, as he showed last year. On the other hand, MS wasnt as good last year anymore than he was when he was younger. Kimi is new to Ferrari but is already destroying Massa and will do even more so as season progresses.

As for Kimis car develop-abilities, McLaren was reliable in 2003, and fastest in 2005. It seems now that they finally have managed to do what they did in 1998, to build fast and reliable car.
11th April 2007, 10:44
Shalafi

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Originally Posted by Donney

I see your point, but Alonso was a winner with a car perfectly designed for him, and now is a winner driving a car which is not built around his unique driving style. To me that means very good driver.

BTW Hamilton is another very good driver and time will tell if he is better than Alonso which is not impossible.

Yes. At least someone understand what I am trying to say.
11th April 2007, 17:27
jjanicke

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Originally Posted by samuratt

... On the other hand if you do really think that this years Mclaren cars potential has a lot more to do with Raikkonen's input rather than Alonso's, the why McLKaren have been so crappy the last 5 years, while Kimi was their car developer¿?

Mclaren wasn't "crappy" the last 5 years. In 2005 they very well could have won with a tiny little but more reliability. In 2003 the same. 2002 Ferrari were simply in a different league than Mclaren and the rest (same for 2004 but that year Mclaren sucked).
11th April 2007, 18:30
Schnell

Huh!!!...I felt sorry for Kimi in Sepang after the race...he suffers incredable unreliabilty (engines wasn't it?) when he was with McLaren, and then has to suffer a rookie and the World Champ benefitting from all new, total reliability, that they weren't anything to do with at all...and RD grinning like the preverbial cat that got the cream! Gutting!
11th April 2007, 19:40
rlenis

so far reliability in Ferrari is 50-50 between Kimi and Massa
11th April 2007, 21:18
F1boat

Alonso is Chuchk Norris in diguise. That's why he is winning.
11th April 2007, 23:40
Cozzie

Alonso Is A Legend! Eat Your Heart Out Michael Schumacher!
12th April 2007, 09:31
Donney

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Originally Posted by Cozzie

Alonso Is A Legend! Eat Your Heart Out Michael Schumacher!

Wow! Let's not get too carried away. :p He is on his way to become a real legend but so far Schumacher is out of reach.

Time will tell.

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