it all seems like a witch hunt to ioan... I´m just filling in for ioan. he´s having a break now
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it all seems like a witch hunt to ioan... I´m just filling in for ioan. he´s having a break now
Damn. I had been thinking of hiring ioan as my solicitor, but on reading this thread I'm beginning to doubt his legal expertise.
Finally we can all sleep better at night. I'm not traying to defend Lance here, but it is amazing that all these years of testing nothing showed ,and now all these creepers are coming out and spilling the bins for sake of the sport(really?) or tv time ,book deals etc. Where was everyone before when they all got nice checks from federal agency sponsoring the team. I thought so, life was good and it's all about winning. We will never know the real story ,and if Lance blew competition in some high margon than I would understand big fuss, oterhwise to me looks like whole cycling circuit was big doping club and winner is one that does it better. Whole cycling circuit from A to Z should be punished equally in my opinion ,but they already are, therefore it's waste of money and time.
Well that's exactly the problem with the system when you could convict someone of murder without the actual proof just with testimonies of people who are trying to save their own backsides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
As for cheating, they all cheated so one has to wonder why all of a sudden they are all becoming angels? Would it be because huge pressure form the USADA? Just wondering.
In the end I couldn't care less, but things need to be clear and regulated in a sensible way, not in witch hunting fashion.
How kind of you. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
Now bugger off and mind your own business.
I for one I am curious to see if all these wannabes will also get stripped of all their sporting achievements and their sponsorship money and so on, if after all they say the truth. I guess it won't happen as the USADA was only after Armstrong since the start of this whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by FIAT1
Time will tell.
I am not reading up on this but have a question:
Is the any material proof other that others testamoies ??
Yes there is
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While I'm not surprised by the findings, I wasn't wholly aware of the full scale mass doping programme asking place. I knew there were whispers/ rumours about various things, but it's pretty sensational. As a cycling fan, it's both sad, and good. Most of the people he beat we're also doped; in fact, most of the post 1999 TdeF winners have been caught for doping. The only exceptions are 2008 Carlos Sastre, 2011 Cadel Evans, and 2012 Bradley Wiggins. I haven't counted Andy Schleck in 2010, as Bertie actually won it, but later had it taken away - similarly with Oscar Pereiro in 2006, after Floyd Landis had his taken away.
Also, don't assume cycling is the only 'dirty' sport. The are many more sports which are protected and turn a blind eye to doping, but claim they are clean. Yes, dream on....
A another forum I visit had this link to a BBC radio program, A bit long at 2 hours but very interesting listening.
BBC Radio 5 live - 5 live Sport, Peddlers - Cycling's Dirty Truth
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Hear from one of Armstrong's former team mates, Tyler Hamilton, as well as interviews with Dick Pound, the former head of WADA and Emma O'Reilly, Armstrong's former masseuse. Plus British cyclist David Millar who was banned for two years after admitting taking performance enhancing drugs and Christophe Basson, a French cyclist who was driven out of the sport by Armstrong and other riders after he spoke out against drugs