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I am so glad you said that Bob. You have fallen on your own sword.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Evolution happens through natural selection. Natural selection occurs when species are adapted better to their natural environment. If the species is less adapted its chance of surviving is much lower. As a result natural selection is the opposite of chance.
This coming from a guy who can't spell his own name right ;) :p : :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Science has proven nothing occurs in nature by chance, so that theory is self-destructing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Nothing can occur by natural selection unless an organism is pre-wired to do x,y or z under circustances x, y, or z.
In evolution that cannot happen as all is a crap-shoot with no pre-defined standards.
So evolution cannot exist.
As I said, nothing comes from nothing, making the scientific statements about life being an accident is absolutely asinine.
Man cannot create something that it has not idea exists or will work.Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
All ideas are based on something and if there is no god that idea cannot exist.
Nothing comes from nothing.
Just so you understand, if there was no god, the idea of a god could not be created as no such idea existed nor could anyone have thought of anything for which they had zero input to use to create it-- religion could not and would not exist, nor would anyone have any idea of how to make one.
what's complex about it? It came from the stars and the sun (also a star) supplied the energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
You obviously haven't heard about virtual particles and their very measurable effects... that would be one example of something coming from nothing. Pretty basic quantum physics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Oh dear, so God doesn't play dice? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
If god were perfect the need for such a thing would also be zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
You have never seen it so you question it, yet you don't question your god?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
On the contrary, there are many theories to explain or justify it. You may not have heard of them, but that doesn't mean they're not there :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Bingo! The origin of god and religion.Quote:
Their is no logic to defend it, so let's make one up.
Virutal particles are part of a group of theories which are just that theories, or guess work with no facts backing them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
They are as much faith, scientists have in themselves, as faith the the base for religious persons.
Nothing comes from nothing and for anyone to say it does, makes the person a raving lunatic or a complete ass, at least when thsome same one says that believing in an unseen God that has always been is rediculous.
Two items: a God that has always been or something coming to exist out of absolutely nothing with no guiding intellegence or material to use to exist.
Which is more fanciful?
If you read science journals old theories or accepted standards are contiually failing, being replaced by new unknown discoveries and theories to explain why the new theories replace the old.
Most religions are based on faith; Christianity totally is.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Too many Christian dogma leaders, are now so full of themselves, they try to play God, as much, or more, than humanists who reject God.
Not beiing well versed in new religions, the last I know of is Mormons, who have/had a special form of writing and believe in a book no one has seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
That one worked pretty well only because they are trying to hitch a ride on the back of Jesus, until one checks into the details, where the devil lives.