Sebastien Ogier

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Lol..

desperate little brittish reporters....how sad...

sorry guys the pain will continue until 2013...get ready.

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Given Citroen's team support and strategy I would not think Ogier alone could turn Ford around even if he did move. Drivers are a big part of the equation but the car, strategy and support are factors , too.

Let he goes wherever he wants.

I think before we speculate about him going to Ford , we must see if ford will be in the championship next year first.

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Originally Posted by Barreis

When you go to work, there's boss. When he says something, you have to listen. So if citroen boss said to Ogier to pull over for 10 minutes, that's it. Otherwise you can be fired and find your place somewhere else. Quesnell thought Loeb would retire and that's why he wanted Ogier to be in the team. Next year it will be different with startegies. Every rally Ogier starts behind Loeb and day by day it's same. Few years ago Hirvonen won 3 or 4 rallies in one season and where's he now?! Second. My hat off to Loeb - king of WRC.

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I don't think anything will change in events like Citroen had in Australia. There will be team orders anway.

Any news from the archives ???????

Hirvonen to Citroen makes sense; a loyal No2, can rack up plenty of podiums places, plus possible wins in Sweden & Finland.....

However, Ogier to Ford doesn't add up; Who would be No1, assuming Latvala stays? I can imagine plenty of new cars & bodywork needed, not what is needed when M-Sport are counting all their pennies. Unless Ford put more money in, but that doesn't seem likely......

Saying that, they've got to agree to next year.......

They should take P.Solberg.

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Originally Posted by logic

I think before we speculate about him going to Ford , we must see if ford will be in the championship next year first.

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dont you mere mortals understand. as i said before, Ford will commit, if they get Ogier.

In fact, how about this.. Ford could threaten Citroen they will leave championship, if they dont get Ogier. Citroen dont want to be driving around on their own, but instead get rid of a stroppy young French lad that will not follow orders, and get a compliant No2 in Hirvonen, who is well up for it cause he is getting X more million than he'd ever get at Ford. Ford get their man and commit. Citroen will win the title for next 2 years away with Loeb, Citroen leave at end of 2013... and the world keep spinning. Dont you just love a good consiprency threory.

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Originally Posted by wildsir

dont you mere mortals understand. as i said before, Ford will commit, if they get Ogier.

In fact, how about this.. Ford could threaten Citroen they will leave championship, if they dont get Ogier. Citroen dont want to be driving around on their own, but instead get rid of a stroppy young French lad that will not follow orders, and get a compliant No2 in Hirvonen, who is well up for it cause he is getting X more million than he'd ever get at Ford. Ford get their man and commit. Citroen will win the title for next 2 years away with Loeb, Citroen leave at end of 2013... and the world keep spinning. Dont you just love a good consiprency threory.

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It makes you think aswel, the citroen bosses were probably secretly relieved that mini are joining wrc, if they continue to give ford the walloping that they have done, ford wil leave the WRC, then it will be citroen V citroen V citroen....Even if that were ever to happen, and citroen have no other manufacturers and competition to compete against, Seb Loeb would still heralded as the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel :laugh:

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Originally Posted by wildsir

dont you mere mortals understand. as i said before, Ford will commit, if they get Ogier.

In fact, how about this.. Ford could threaten Citroen they will leave championship, if they dont get Ogier. Citroen dont want to be driving around on their own, but instead get rid of a stroppy young French lad that will not follow orders, and get a compliant No2 in Hirvonen, who is well up for it cause he is getting X more million than he'd ever get at Ford. Ford get their man and commit. Citroen will win the title for next 2 years away with Loeb, Citroen leave at end of 2013... and the world keep spinning. Dont you just love a good consiprency threory.

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LOL.....