Team orders at Ferrari

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Wow! Rob expects fans to buy that crap?

“I don’t expect any penalties whatsoever because Alonso was just faster and Massa made a small mistake when shifting up three gears at once.”

:rolleyes:

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All the players from the big circus are taking the fans for idiots, it's been like this for years already.
And we are idiots because we watch the same crap again and again no matter what.

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Originally Posted by aki13

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If the rule wasn't bought in to ban team orders a while ago, would the reaction be different.

Don't get me wrong I am really disappointed with the way things happened, but I would just like to know.

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I would probably still be unhappy however it would have been legal to do it, even if unfair.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Wow! Rob expects fans to buy that crap?

“I don’t expect any penalties whatsoever because Alonso was just faster and Massa made a small mistake when shifting up three gears at once.”

:rolleyes:

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What do you expect Smedley to do? Sure he's disappointed but he's not stupid. He knows there's nothing to gain by making things harder for the team. Felipe has already done that (not that I blame him by the way, even if I have no problem with the call).

Is there any official investigation or protest?
I have heard nothing, so are we all moaning over nothing except prinicple????

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Wow! Rob expects fans to buy that crap?

“I don’t expect any penalties whatsoever because Alonso was just faster and Massa made a small mistake when shifting up three gears at once.”

:rolleyes:

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Sorry Ferrari, us fans are not as gullible as you think we are

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Originally Posted by aki13

Question.

If the rule wasn't bought in to ban team orders a while ago, would the reaction be different.

Don't get me wrong I am really disappointed with the way things happened, but I would just like to know.

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I do have some limited sympathy with the view that it's not a good rule, but once it was decided that this is the rule then the drivers and teams must respect it. Ferrari didn't.

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Originally Posted by aki13

Question.

If the rule wasn't bought in to ban team orders a while ago, would the reaction be different.

Don't get me wrong I am really disappointed with the way things happened, but I would just like to know.

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people would still be angry and even though there might not be a penalty for the action, it will still be a pr disaster for F1 and leave millions of fans disturbed by the result. A quick look at how the audience reacted to the podium celebration and post race should tell you that most were disgusted

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

What do you expect Smedley to do? Sure he's disappointed but he's not stupid. He knows there's nothing to gain by making things harder for the team. Felipe has already done that (not that I blame him by the way, even if I have no problem with the call).

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Just hard for me to understand how Rob can say that to the press. I thought Rob would be too ashamed to say anything and just skip away to his trailer.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Is there any official investigation or protest?
I have heard nothing, so are we all moaning over nothing except prinicple????

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No and yes.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Is there any official investigation or protest?
I have heard nothing, so are we all moaning over nothing except prinicple????

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I'd say so. I don't think any of the teams will make a formal protest as they know the same thing could happen to them. If Red Bull protest this result then they are going to have a problem if they need to do something similar in the last couple of races.

3 gears at once my arse, the replay with telemetry clearly showed that he was not on full throttle and shifted at about 14k revs for a couple fo gears and then got back on the gas when Alonso was nealry alongside, there was no mistake and it is so insulting to suggest there was.

They have brought a ****storm on themselves and are cowering trying to deflect the brown stuff.

Massa may have been a little lucky to find himself in the lead but once there he deserved it and Alonso couldn't pass, that should have been race over