Goodbye Jacques, goodbye Juan, goodbye Michael...

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Originally Posted by ioan

No need to post a link, I know where it is and I already posted there before. My point is that we had threads about AS and MH in here before when they were no more in F1, but this year we get the mod's message that the last 3 who departed are to be discussed just in the History forum and that we should look forward to the extraordinary new additions we get this year.
Why is that? Are you people scared you can't handle a thread about them anymore, so we relegate them to the part of the forum where there is little chance that people will ever read the threads? At least this was the impression I got after the famous thread started.

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No, it's simply because this forum is for discussing whats happing in Formula 1 NOW and the H&N is for what happened in the past.

It's not the mods decision that MS should retire or JPM leave F1, but that they have done.

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Originally Posted by Mark

No, it's simply because this forum is for discussing whats happing in Formula 1 NOW and the H&N is for what happened in the past.

It's not the mods decision that MS should retire or JPM leave F1, but that they have done.

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Let's not turn and twist it around trying to hide what we don't like.

I'm not quite sure what you mean there. I fail to see how my post could have been any more clear.

(I've started a new thread to avoid hijacking an existing one with meta discussion)

And by the way, the mod that started this thread is kindly requested to put his name as starter because I own the first post in another thread! Please own up to your creation.

Eh? The forum software puts the first post name as the thread starter. And that's it. I've already mentioned it was me who created the thread.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Eh? The forum software puts the first post name as the thread starter. And that's it. I've already mentioned it was me who created the thread.

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I thought about that being the cause, but I've started to write my post before your's was up.

Ioan, I honestly can't see why it's such a big issue to discuss past driver issues in the history section, like ArrowsFA1 or Pino said earlier, if they do something relevant to current F1, it's ok to bring it up here, but what point is there to continue the same old arguments about who did what and why in F1 section?
I think it was you who said you don't like it because there aren't many visitors there, i think if it's interesting enough, people will post there. And MS, JPM and JV topics certainly should make it more interesting. :)
I won't visit there much because i don't care that much what happened last year, let alone in the nineties.

I have to say that I agree with the mods on this. Correct me if I'm wrong here mods, but I don't think the intention is to stop all mention or reference to these three drivers, or perhaps casual comparisons of them to current drivers. The intent as I see it is not to have threads started specifically about them, or lengthy discussions about them. If MS actually does something in his new role in Ferrari, then I think that should be up for discussion here, but leave the driving/cheating.....crap out of it. As far as F1 "drivers", these three ARE history - so discuss that in the history forum.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Ioan, I honestly can't see why it's such a big issue to discuss past driver issues in the history section, like ArrowsFA1 or Pino said earlier, if they do something relevant to current F1, it's ok to bring it up here, but what point is there to continue the same old arguments about who did what and why in F1 section?
I think it was you who said you don't like it because there aren't many visitors there, i think if it's interesting enough, people will post there. And MS, JPM and JV topics certainly should make it more interesting. :)
I won't visit there much because i don't care that much what happened last year, let alone in the nineties.

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The moment and the way things happened made things a it difficult I would say.
It's like when they changed the points system back in 2003 and now they want to make it somewhat like before.

My only wonder is if the mods will be strict with this, or if it only applies to these three drivers and not to other topics. In recent times we had threads like Start racing at 3 years old, Alonso's Jaguar F1 test, F1 idiots, The great overtakes, which clearly don't belong to current F1, and I don't think the starters were told to post in the H&N forum.

A statement with a clear criterion will be nice.

Personally, I don't see a problem with the threads that have been posted. But if the mods want a full change, please make the change complete.