Discontent at Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by ioan

I think he was just pointing out the McLaren fans hypocrisy, he was obviously way to subtle for you to get the idea. :D

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So how many times do you have to call all the McLaren fans hypocrits before being a broken record? Even our friends from Finland gave up mentioning Santander in every post.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed. Massa was abit silly in the pre season partially blaming Alonso for depriving him of winning the 2008 WDC, but lately he has insisted everything is rosey. It may well be ok between the two, but with Alonso hinting that he has been held up and not shown his true pace, and the latest pitlane move, I'd be surprised if something was not brewing.

They are both highly competitive individuals and have both shown in the past to display emotion before thought. It'll be interesting to watch, but I reckon Massa will tow the corporate line for now and let the fireworks ignite from the other side of the garage. It may well be the case that both have learnt from past experiences and this won't happen however.. :)

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Don´t worry, I´m sure Alonso will be at it again very soon.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed. Massa was abit silly in the pre season partially blaming Alonso for depriving him of winning the 2008 WDC

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Another totally false misrepresentation of the facts.

Massa blamed Briatore, Symonds and Piquet.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/54256,...s-championship

No mention of Fernando.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Another totally false misrepresentation of the facts.

Massa blamed Briatore, Symonds and Piquet.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/54256,...s-championship

No mention of Fernando.

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Totally correct. It must be stressed that there is no evidence or suggestion that Alonso or Renault were in any way involved in this disgraceful incident.

There were 3 people involved and F1 would be fine if they never return.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Another totally false misrepresentation of the facts.

Massa blamed Briatore, Symonds and Piquet.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/54256,...s-championship

No mention of Fernando.

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That's correct. Fred was in no way involved. Shoot, he was not even driving that day........ completely innocent......had no clue....he just wants his Mum.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

That's correct. Fred was in no way involved. Shoot, he was not even driving that day........ completely innocent......had no clue....he just wants his Mum.

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So it's ok to accuse Fernando based on no evidence, as confirmed by the FIA investigation, but if somebody suggests that Fernando was treated badly at Mclaren you claim it is unfair to do so because you claim there is no evidence?

A bit hypocritical, that.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I don't care whether Alonso knew or not, but I do remember Massa suggesting Alonso knew full well what was happening. I am not misinterpreting the facts, and it looks like you are ignoring certain facts to make your arguement stronger.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...gy-Felipe.html

http://www.formula1nexus.com/massa-i...ut-conspiracy/

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/15/m...et-crash-plan/

The link you have provided is dated 2 Oct 2009, before the Alonso comment was made. The comment regarding Alonso was made on 14th Oct 2009. Now who is misinterpreting the facts?! Remember Massa issuing a statement to retract his comments?? The Ferrari PR department had obviously made him aware of the implications of bad mouthing a new teammate.

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It's gone quiet Henners, any idea why??????

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Originally Posted by tamburello

So it's ok to accuse Fernando based on no evidence, as confirmed by the FIA investigation, but if somebody suggests that Fernando was treated badly at Mclaren you claim it is unfair to do so because you claim there is no evidence?

A bit hypocritical, that.

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Lets just wait and see when, sorry, IF Fred has a tantrum at Ferrari shall we....??

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Originally Posted by pino

And how do you know that ? do you work at Ferrari and can prove it ?

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Yes, I am luca di montezemolo :D

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Yes, I am luca di montezemolo :D

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Sorry to hear that, do you have regular councelling for this? ;)

Is this only at weekends, or is the dillusion a full time obsession.......