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6th January 2010, 07:52
GigiGalliNo1

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Maybe Travvie's World record is of the same sort of "Promotion" as his being 2007 World Champignon was........

lol
6th January 2010, 10:09
JAM

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

You know nothing of rally, you're not here to discuss anything but rather to try and be a moster-troll, that is transparent, so maybe you should just go write you insane blather in Off Topic about how everybody in the world is a Communist-Nazi or a Nazi-Communist. Everybody except your indicted terrorist friends.

Your brain is in troubles...
6th January 2010, 10:14
JAM

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

He forgets john Buffum who is still a better driver, and who did respectable top 5-6 results in a number of events.

No awareness of anything that came before.....typical.

No, he is right. Buffum never made more than 2 WRC events in a year.

You can see here:

John Buffum on Rallybase database

Block also made 2 WRC events in 2007.
6th January 2010, 16:55
buffalo

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Originally Posted by Rally_Rocks

Brother John, I will happily admit I'm a modern day rally fan who refuses to live in the past. You show your true colours when you, "what real rally meant". I'm sorry, but I'm only interested in living in the present and doing all I can to raise the profile of our sport to the level I think it deserves. We live in a commercially driven, celebrity obsessed world. Embrace it and exploit it, then maybe our sport stands a slim chance of not disappearing into niche obscurity only to be enjoyed by anorak wearing whingers like yourself.

Absolute gold and agree 100% ... One of the things holding rallying back is the narrow minded living in the past mentalities ..... Pastrana, Block, RedBull, Monster, gymkhana video's, big jumps - awesome stuff !!
6th January 2010, 17:27
Josti

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Originally Posted by buffalo

Absolute gold and agree 100% ... One of the things holding rallying back is the narrow minded living in the past mentalities ..... Pastrana, Block, RedBull, Monster, gymkhana video's, big jumps - awesome stuff !!

Haha, pretty much the point people are trying to get across is that - "Pastrana, Block, RedBull, Monster, gymkhana video's, big jumps - awesome stuff!!" - is narrow minded.

Also, present WRC is nothing like that either.
6th January 2010, 18:06
Rally_Rocks

Don't know if it's online, but today's Motorsport News dedicates the cover and first two inside pages to Pastrana's jump. It's also worth reading the comments of MSN editor Matt Burt who is a very experienced and well respected motorsport journalist. He very very neatly expresses the same view as myself and a number of other contributors in this thread.
6th January 2010, 18:51
janvanvurpa

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Originally Posted by JAM

No, he is right. Buffum never made more than 2 WRC events in a year.

You can see here:

John Buffum on Rallybase database

Thank you but I have followed Buffum since I came into the sport in 1983-84

Very few people did, indeed many works drivers then only did selected events.
But he drove and did very well, especially well when you consider the level of the sport in USA at the time on the one hand and the always huge difficulties of dropping into an event for the first or maybe at most second time.

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Block also made 2 WRC events in 2007.

And if memeory serves me correctly he stuffed on the first or second stage on each and finished under the "Super rally" rules far far down in the results in very thin fields.

Buffum did "multiple events".
You try to change that to "multiple events in one year".
Sorry but his statement must be what we discuss.
6th January 2010, 19:22
janvanvurpa

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Originally Posted by JAM

Your brain is in troubles...

I am referring not to you but to the very agressive "Anthonyvop" who in this forum's Chit chat section has described everybody who doesn't live in the fantasy world of Cuban Revanchism as he does as "Communists-nazis" and conversely or interchangeably "Nazi-communists", and that includes everybody from me to Barak Obama.
As I said it seems in his world he is the only non-Nazi-Commie.
or Commie-Nazi.

It seems it is an all-purpose dirty word that he uses.

He has zero involvement in rally (aside from rephrasing other reports for some obscure web site) and yet he feels free to ridicule people who work everyday to make the sport in USA available and affordable to more people.
In short he is a classic internet keyboard er who tries to make arguments about things he has no connection to, and that is called a "troll".

Relax, with you I am just explaining what the conditions from our US perspective from normal rally competitors looks like.
6th January 2010, 19:29
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

I am referring not to you but to the very agressive "Anthonyvop" who in this forum's Chit chat section has described everybody who doesn't live in the fantasy world of Cuban Revanchism as he does as "Communists-nazis" and conversely or interchangeably "Nazi-communists", and that includes everybody from me to Barak Obama.
As I said it seems in his world he is the only non-Nazi-Commie.
or Commie-Nazi.

It seems it is an all-purpose dirty word that he uses.

He has zero involvement in rally (aside from rephrasing other reports for some obscure web site) and yet he feels free to ridicule people who work everyday to make the sport in USA available and affordable to more people.
In short he is a classic internet keyboard er who tries to make arguments about things he has no connection to, and that is called a "troll".

Relax, with you I am just explaining what the conditions from our US perspective from normal rally competitors looks like.

Wow......You are so wrong on so many points it isn't worth the effort to point each out individually.

Now if you want to discuss how to increase participation of low-budget Club Rally competitors so you can sell more Dampers I am game but if you just want to hurl personal insults then this conversation is over.
6th January 2010, 19:44
cali

Sorry dudes, but this new thingie you are describing is not Rally! It is just some show-off thing, which is not bad, but do not get confused and start to think that this is rallying. Only thing that connects these publicity stunts is that US publicity guys have used Subaru rallycar.

If You want spectate something new and "spectacular" showoff thingies, give it a name and start a championship or a series. At the moment it seems that some of the guys here do not know the real meaning or spirit of rallying.

You can call me oled fashioned or narrowminded - no problems - but then again, You seem to live in a video game or in Youtube world :D

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