Well after Hamiltons immunity from rule breaking last year I think this is fair. Personal crane service anyone?
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Well after Hamiltons immunity from rule breaking last year I think this is fair. Personal crane service anyone?
Well after Hamiltons immunity from rule breaking last year I think this is fair. Personal crane service anyone?
I don't understand. He did give the place back. That is a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
I agree. He gained a small advantage from the corner, I don't think that it was worthy of this penalty though. You'd be forgiven for thinking that he had punted Raikkonen into the wall and cruised to victory scattering all before him. Or something.
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It's amazing that is what was written on the official Formula One website:Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
Just because Max Mosley may have castration fantasies, it's unfortunate that his band of blind mice stewards feel the need to do the same to F1. Good hard racing is disallowed in the current F1 Powder Puff. Paint the cars pink, hire Danica Patrick and make sure no one gets within 50 feet of another car.Quote:
Battling for the lead as rain started to fall in the dying laps, Hamilton ran across the Bus Stop chicane as he attempted to pass Raikkonen. He correctly surrendered the position, but then dived past the Ferrari going into the La Source hairpin.
However, Raikkonen quickly retook the lead as Hamilton ran wide at Pouhon, only to then lose it for good as he spun into the wall and retirement, handing the British driver his fifth win of the season.
he didn't lose any advantage... he just simulated he was giving back the position after cutting the chicane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonieke
Thing is there is only 1 line through that corner and Lewis wasn't able to go through side by side with Kimi (he went off remember?). You just can't turn a mistake like going off into an opportunity to drop straight into the slipstream of the driver in front and take them back almost straight away. If you allowed this sort of thing drivers would just drive off the road, give the position back and jump back into the slipstream of the car in front for a guaranteed overtake. Now I don't feel Lewis went off on purpose to gain an advantage but it does seem like he gained an advantage by going off the track and that is something which is wrong. I think if Lewis had stayed behind for another corner or 2 the result would be the same and we wouldn't be here talking about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonieke
btw..now that we are talking about Marchals and punishments..what penalty did Bourdais got for driving into the back of Trulli at the start ?
I've not posted to these forums in ages, just lurking and reading, but this latest farce has led me to comment.
F1 and the FIA have a real image problem. Firstly the Max thing - yes he's FIA, but most of the media coverage used mentioned F1 when explaining who Max Mosley was, so as far as the general public is concerned, he is the head of F1 (which in a sense he is... but what I'm trying to say is that the scandal probably tarnished F1 more than most motorsport). There was the problem in the past few years with Schumacher winning everything. Sometimes controversially, but the majority of the time on merit.
There was the 'spying' fiasco, which thankfully didn't impact on the WDC, and Kimi deservedly won the WDC on merit.
Now, again, the outcome of a race is decided after the event. Like him or not, Lewis managed to keep the car between the green bits for most of the last 2 laps. Driving in trecherous conditions, and passing Kimi, not once, but twice - Fairly. Had he not passed him a second time, I would have had some sympathy with the argument that he had gained an advantage through the chicane, but this is just ridiculous.
I really don't see who has gained from this - F1 has been hurt again with accusations of fixing the result to try and make the WDC more exciting, Ferrari have been accused of having a helping hand, McLaren still lead the WDC and WCC championships, albeit by a depleated margin, and once again racing has been punished.
If the aim was to bring the WDC closer - as I pointed out to my Dad when he was saying that Lewis was beginning to look comfortable - the way the result stood at the chequered flag, Lewis needed one engine blowup and Massa to win for the WDC to be brought right back to a hair's breadth.
Had we not already bought non-refundable tickets for Silverstone next year, I wouldn't have bothered. I've been incredibly loyal to this sport for many years, but it's really getting to the point where my patience can't be stretched much further.
When I saw that taking place I kinda wondered about whether there would be trouble over this . Indeed , there is .
Lewis went off-track and , although he let Kimi back into the lead , he was granted the perfect entry into Kimi's slipstream with the move .
Had he lft any attempt until after the next corner , he would not have been changed with this .
The "concertina" effect , with Kimi ahead into the corner , would have allowed a greater distance between before La Source .
He could have gotten him up the hill .
It wasn't just for Kimi that second wasn't good enough .
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Um daniel..it was Lewis being on the racingline..not Kimi...