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Originally Posted by JSH
Nah, I'm done. There is no point trying to argue this any further. Despite the protestations to the contrary, anthonyvpop obviously still can't get over the fact that ChampCar is gone. Some of us have moved on, some of us can't.
Gary
anthonyvop, what did you expect to happen over three months? The cow to jump over the moon? With "blendification," several things in the marketing area have ALREADY happened, namely Firestone sponsorship of the Indy Lights series, Coke and Peak and several others jumping on board, Firestone putting up $50,000 to the last qualifier for the "500", Red Gold putting up $10,000 to the driver with the fastest qualifying lap at Indy on the last day, full fields of cars for the races, etc.
Because my subscription was canceled, I can't read it at AR1 but I understand there's a statement there that ex-CC people are poo-pooing ethanol, which has become a fuel and car sponsor in the IRL. I haven't read ANYWHERE else where ANYONE has poo-pooed ethanol as a fuel in the garage area and no names have been mentioned ANYWHERE, so that's, IMO, just black helicopter nonsense.
If you're going to put the IRL in a fishbowl, go ahead and do it. But in three months, Dallara, Honda, Firestone, the IRL and even teams have pitched in to make blendification work, get some equipment into the hands of the CC teams to get them going, sponsors signed, new website features unveiled and races run and that required all of racing's big kids pulling together to make it happen.
So everything wasn't (and quite probably couldn't) have been changed at once. Perhaps (and more than likely) the CW jihad will not be the guiding light behind the series and its ideologies will NOT be adopted. So, I'm afraid you can just beller and tap your foot because I don't think you'll like ANYTHING that is done, and like other CW mainstays, be like the Japanese soldiers found wandering around small islands in the Pacific in the '50s, rifles still in hand, because no one told them the war was over.
His name, I believe, was Sanguin San.Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
I think some are still upset because not only did CC fail once but it went BK TWO times. You can't get a much more solid proof than that that CC wasn't all it was cracked up to be. TG (supossedly an idiot) was the last one left standing, almost all of the CC teams left CC for the IRL, the IRL now has LB on it's schedule & this year there was honest to god bumping and excitement on bump day.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Yeah, it's gotta hurt to be a dead ender. I understand why they are lashing out. Me? I'm enjoying every moment of the racing this year with a smile on my face.
Simple Tony George, like him or hate him has the one card that actually matters. Some of us accept this and move forward with what we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
TV rating were up 25% for 3rd round qualifying and 50% for bump day.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
And maybe last year everyone was searching for IndyCar come the 500, this year they already know what it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenRoethig
Is that first weekend rainout numbers? I see Ben posted the weekend 2 TV increases. As I said, it's this year's race that should mark the beginning of the growth trend, and really next year's numbers... Momentum is something you have to build. You don't judge Indy Car racing by the speed they are going 2 seconds from a dead stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
(IC - the ethanol article was fairly positive.)
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Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Just as we don't need the CCF crowd continuing to spout their venom against the ICS, we really don't need a lot of gloating at the outcome either. The only reason the idiot grandson, was left standing is he held the keys to 16th and Georgetown. (After all who else BUT an idiot would divide things to the point that the TV ratings fell through the floor and tickets went unsold etc. etc.)
Like I said to Anthony some of us have moved on, I can see some of the folks on both sides still can't. Sadly.
Gary
You respond to guys like him the way you want to, I will the way I want to. It makes the forum interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell