[WRC] Rally Finland 2013

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Done, we don't want this to turn into the. F1 forum! Don't like censorship but the exchanges were becoming pointless and not to the usual standard of politeness. (Which makes me sound like the boring old. Fart that I am!)

This is rally!

Sometimes there is raining, sometimes there is slow car in front of you, sometimes there is rock, spectator, cow, alien or other object to destroying car. So what?! Keep going....

Biggest surprise for me in Rally Finland

No 1. Kris Meeke. First rally for long time and speed even near Mikkos speed
No 2. Jarkko Nikara Faster than sordo and novikov with Mini. great talent
No 3. A Lukyanyk after 2 days 12st with grN!!! Mitsubishi evoX

If I had the opportunity to talk with Hayden tonight my comments would be to respect Robert but now is the time to give him a taste of Kiwi.

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Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera

In WRC2 I am also very impressed to see Paddon beating Lappi on his home turf. Is it the car? I don't know. I think Even and BRR would probably have very similar cars... both are quite prominent teams, aren't they? Paddon did "beat" him in NZ but the conditions were not at all comparable - home advantage, home-made ridiculously fast car, etc. I have high hopes for both of them, but I must say after what, 9 months away from S2000, Paddon is really, really good. That kind of lack of practice is very hard to overcome. Hyundai should be looking at this guy if they want to look ahead for future winners rather than using guys who've had years experience but not much potential for improvement. Like, Hanninen is fast and in a good, manufacturer car he will put in good performances, but I don't think we'd expect him to dominate Ogier or something, or get way way better than he is already. He is a known quantity.

Lastly Ketomaa had never been on my radar much but he's been so quick here. Does he just not do as well when outside Finland?

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I remember Thierry Neuville commenting that the Feista R5 was faster then the current S2000 cars at Ypres.

I drive a 2.4L Lancer Wagon that has 165hp and 220nm of torque. If I was to slot in a Feistas 1.6L Turbo into the same body I'd have a lighter motor and produce more torque with more power. Wouldn't it only be logical that a R5 car should in theory be easily quicker then a NA? Just curious on peoples opinion.

In regards to Paddon, I'm a big fan of his, but I think in this rally and with this new formula it's harder then ever to diagnose who is actually the quickest! Ketomaa is consistently 0.8ish secs a k faster then Paddon. But in completely different cars. Would Paddon be equal for speed if he were in the same car? I think he would. And once you take into account that Ketomaa is on home soil, it really does goes to show how fast Hayden is.

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

Done, we don't want this to turn into the. F1 forum! Don't like censorship but the exchanges were becoming pointless and not to the usual standard of politeness. (Which makes me sound like the boring old. Fart that I am!)

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Tell that to Jackie Stewart ! Let sleeping dogs lie eh ;)

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Can You elaborate? Since 2009 onwards we had 2 manufacturers. In 2011 we had 3. In 2012 again only 2. Now we have 3, since 2014 we will have 4 and in 2015 maybe 5.

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I think that with Citroen's current level of performance and company's financial difficulties their continued involvement with WRC is under constant threat. Hyundai will enter but if they won't perform, will they stay? Ford is here for the time being and perform as long as their current homologation lasts, which won't be long.

Having said that, WRC survived previous low-point in 1995-1996 with just Mitsu, Subaru and Ford.

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Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas

This is rally!

Sometimes there is raining, sometimes there is slow car in front of you, sometimes there is rock, spectator, cow, alien or other object to destroying car. So what?! Keep going....

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Oi! Someone always wants the last word don't make me go into Strict Dad mode!

Roger.