Kimi's future - No racing in 2010?

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I highly doubt that Ferrari were favouring Massa when they were paying Kimi far more to drive the same car. If Kimi was the "number two" driver, he would have been paid far less.

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Well, Ferrari is paying Kimi well over 10million for NOT driving the car.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I highly doubt that Ferrari were favouring Massa when they were paying Kimi far more to drive the same car. If Kimi was the "number two" driver, he would have been paid far less. Kimi came to Ferrari to take over where Schumi left off.

Massa adapted well to the new car, Kimi did not.

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Do you know the Pearl Jam song "Nothing as it seems"?

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed, Ferrari introduced significant changes to their 2008 machine which were not taylored to Kimi's liking. Infact Kimi's manager had to get involved to demand that earlier versions were re-installed to suit him better. His performance improved considerably towards the end of the season, but it sent out the message that the team were 100% behind Massa because by this point, he was a contender for the title. Its too easy to scream lack of motivation when not understanding all the facts IMO...

Kimi was one of the drivers of the season for me this year, and was matching the pace of Massa before his accident. A series of bad decisions on strategy, notably Maylasia when he pitted for wet tires on a dry track, and teething problems with KERS when he was the sole driver in the team using the device early on, put him a few points behind Massa. By the time Massa had his season ended prematurely, it looked on paper like Kimi was the worst driver which evidently wasn't the case... :)

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100% behind you on that.

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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei

Well, Ferrari is paying Kimi well over 10million for NOT driving the car.

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And if I had the spare cash lying around I would have paid him 100 million for him to not drive the car.

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Originally Posted by JRodrigues

Do you know the Pearl Jam song "Nothing as it seems"?

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Do you know the song "What are you on about"?

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Originally Posted by henners88

Thats a little unfair on Massa though isn't it? :p

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Who said life was fair :p :

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Originally Posted by henners88

You're right it hasn't been said before because most of the people here analyse a drivers ability based on circumstances and not whilst holding a beer in their hand and flicking back and forth from the football. ;)

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well most of the people here have too much time on their hands. Short and sweet fact!

Well there we are then. :wave:

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed, Ferrari introduced significant changes to their 2008 machine which were not taylored to Kimi's liking. Infact Kimi's manager had to get involved to demand that earlier versions were re-installed to suit him better. His performance improved considerably towards the end of the season, but it sent out the message that the team were 100% behind Massa because by this point, he was a contender for the title. Its too easy to scream lack of motivation when not understanding all the facts IMO...

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So, if it wasn't a lack of motivation, what was it that made Kimi allow such a situation to develop whereby car-changes suited Massa and he needed his manager to help him?

A lack of guts?

I can't imagine Lewis or Fernando being so gutless.

Kimi was paid to be a team leader. To allow his team-mate to dominate the garage, especially when that team-mate is Massa, not exactly the toughest nut, is a dereliction of his contractual obligations. He was lucky to get a pay-off, since I'd have sacked him the day he let Massa get the better of him.

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Originally Posted by henners88

You mention that you can't imagine Fernando being so "gutless", but when we look back to 2007 where Lewis dominated the Mclaren team in his rookie year against a hardened WDC, then theres your example.

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Except that's a crap example, as Fernando did everything in his power to gain the upper hand, or at least a semblance of parity. That he failed wasn't through a lack of trying.

Kimi, on the other hand, ate a fecking ice cream.