ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2013

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Originally Posted by Astro83

yea thats the way to go on tarmac! ;) if you slides and so on you lost time... but I understand 100% what you mean! :)

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On other way, especially on that video no more other carry much speed at corners then Kubica or Neuville. Sordo takes it easy. And footage and times of 1st,2nd, half 3rd day show it clearly.

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Originally Posted by Integrale

Sigh..

He deserves it if he passes the line faster than anyone else.

My comparison to the Belgians waiting for a proper victory was just pointing out to you how ridiculous it is to say that someone 'deserves' a victory more, just because he's been waiting for it longer. It has nothing to do with that. And you should know that.

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Yea I agree 100% with you, it was some other guy from Belgium whobsaid that.
How some, I said that yesterday, If Sordo finish first, he deserve it like if that was Oger, Neuville or Östberg...

Rally is all about getting first place, who cares about mistakes or how fast you were un till you end up in a ditch...

What counts is to be in first place when you go over the finish line - thats rally..

I agree...

Neuville is bloody fast how some, really like him to as a person and driver.

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Originally Posted by Integrale

Sorry for being honest here, but would that be a good thing then? He only has something to offer on asphalt. He had time enough. Pretty sure Meeke is the better allround driver.

And please.. The one who deserves it, is the one who was fastest at the end of the rally. Sordo doesn't deserve it "because he's been waiting for it longer." That's just a load of bull... If he doesn't lose 3 seconds in the last stage, then he deserves it.

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That's what I say, that my desire is that he doesn't lose lose three seconds in the PS. Maybe it would be the basis to recover the forgotten Sordo who was closer to Loeb on tarmac.
Moreover, half of the drivers who currently run on the WRC would would giver their eye's teeth for having the speed of Sordo on asphalt.
On the other hand, I haven't said anything about Meeke. That's what the f.....g Spanish press used to do to praise Sordo on the Mini era. It's as unfair as mentioning him now to undervalue Dani.

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Originally Posted by KKS

On other way, especially on that video no more other carry much speed at corners then Kubica or Neuville. Sordo takes it easy. And footage and times of 1st,2nd, half 3rd day show it clearly.

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Yea, I can't say anything whit help of a movie, "camera lies" you know?! ;) ;)

really good fight anyway, this is how it always should be!! :)

Neuville had a slow puncture it seems..

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Originally Posted by Integrale

(Australia 2005 wasn't a proper one. I wasn't satisfied. :) )

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Though it's the only real WRC victory we have in Belgium.

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Originally Posted by mousti

Though it's the only real WRC victory we have in Belgium.

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Just be "cool", I think Neuville will fight for the title soon if he develop in this "speed"... :)

There are no unworthy winners!!

Come on Thierry, beat that loeb-servant and send him out of the sport :)

A sad incident. I heard about Chardonnet hitting a dog on the stage, but now I read the story... Apparently, these spectators wanted to install a GoPro-camera on the side of the road 45 minutes before the first car came through. But the marshalls yelled at them and scared anyone away to guarantee safety. (When I see some of the videos being posted here, I have serious doubts about the choices some spectators AND marshalls make about their safety...)

But when the cars are actually racing, there is a dog (without owner apparently) who roams the street for 4 - 5 minutes. The dog is just walking there. I can understand you can't avoid a dog being hit by a rallycar when he's just running up the SS seconds before a car passes, but with two minutes between cars, they can scare a dog away no?

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Trauriger Zwischenfall..

Wir stehen in den Weinbergen am Hetzerather Berg um die WP Moselland zu verfolgen. Wir möchten 45min vor Rennbeginn eine GoPro auf der gegenüberliegenden Seite positionieren. Die netten Menschen in gelbem Hemd, nachfolgend Marshall genannt, schreiten sofort ein, brüllen uns an, wir brechen unser Vorhaben ab. Der Gorilla schlägt sich stolz auf die Brust und die Menschenmenge ist gewarnt.. Streckensicherheit ist definitiv der wichtigste Punkt im Rallyesport, auch schon 45 min vor Beginn.. In den nächsten Minuten wechseln ausserhalb der Brüllreichweite der Marshalls noch einige Zuschauer die Seiten.. das ist ihm scheinbar egal.

Nach ca. 20 Minuten Rennbetrieb läuft ein scheinbar herrenloser Hund auf die Strecke, direkt an den Marshalls vorbei. Man schaut ihm hinterher als er geradezu auf der Piste auf die Kurve zuläuft, aus der die Autos mit geschätzten 120 kmh geschossen kommen. Ein Marshall trottet erfolglos hinterher, als der Hund, noch immer auf der Strecke, knapp vom nächsten Fahrzeug verfehlt wird. Die Menge (ca. 90-100 Zuschauer) schreit nun lauter zu den Marshalls, sie sollen doch etwas unternehmen. Man denkt: brecht ab, funkt es durch, rennt mit ner Fahne hoch, aber TUT WAS!

Das nächste Auto erwischt den Hund mit voller Wucht frontal, schleudert den Hund an die Seite. Das Foto möchte ich an dieser Stelle NICHT zeigen. Der Hund ist auf der Stelle tot, zu seinem Glück..

Der Hund ist ca. 4-5 Minuten vor aller Augen auf der Piste gewesen, es war also keine Sekundensache, für die niemand was kann. Warum stehen 3 Marshalls rum und nichts wird in die Wege geleitet? Weil es NUR ein Tier ist? Waren die Fahrer dadurch etwa nicht in Gefahr? Wie weit geht man dort??

Als die verständlicherweise aufgebrachte Menge sich lautstark gegen die Marshalls wendet, steht ihr aufgetakeltes Blondinchen vor den Männern und schreit die Leute an, wenn es ihnen nicht passe, sollten sie doch nach hause gehen.. Nee, Leute, das kann nicht im Interesse des Rallyesports sein???

Für die nächsten WP´s: Lasst euch nicht den Spass verderben, leint eure Hunde an und verlasst euch nicht auf die gelben M´s..

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