Pointless stats, let's not forget when seb took over from kennard that paddon had been driving a hyundai for years, people cant ignore this was meekes first year in a toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Pointless stats, let's not forget when seb took over from kennard that paddon had been driving a hyundai for years, people cant ignore this was meekes first year in a toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
im so sorry man that i upset youQuote:
Originally Posted by go mads
i guess we should give Meeke couple more years again to prove himself.
I have a feeling we won't see a lot of Paddon or Meeke in the future WRC events.Quote:
Originally Posted by go mads
😂😂 not upset me, I would give him an extra year yes, as he has, unlike others regularly shown rally winning pace. I also get the argument he makes to many mistakes, so we'll see what happens, think a part programme is the best he can hope for though. We will seeQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
That’s why I said couple of years because next year you will also say we should give him another year ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by go mads
Yea, if he wasn't so quick and 'nearly' there, you could laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Did somebody do that stat? Take top 3 out of championship and Meeke wins title? Even with all the issues he had...and he should have could easily had 3 to 4 more podiums.
Maybe he'll be there in 2020, maybe he will not, but it's one less driver cabable of winning rallys.. and that will be everyones loss.
Then only because some did partial seasons...
If I'm not mistaken Mikkelsen did better anyway than Meeke.
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And Evans, both with partial seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
Whilst never looking like winning an event on pace, if your happy to have guys drive for points then Evans,mikkelsen,paddon,ostberg etc are the way to go, if you want someone to challenge the big 3 on pace then meeke needs a seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
What are you blabbering about? The only one out of these drivers was Evans who seriously contended for a victory but he was brutally robbed by a puncture and early trouble in Wales kept him out of podium. Meeke was not even close to win an event in 2019 let alone was he consistent enough. Like Märtin said the best Hyundai drivers were those 2 other guys driving a Toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by go mads
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Originally Posted by go mads
tell me where did he do that this season?
if he tries he crashes. (best example for this is finland this year, crashed even two times)
Close?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Portugal?
Finland?
Germany?
GB?
Ogier crashed 3 times in one rally?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Really, have you followed WRC this season at all? Do I need to answer or are you just playing dumb with me?Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
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Not interested in silly arguments over drivers, I like them all, but fact remains meeke brings speed and entertainment to the championship and I for one would miss him if he got left out.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
Definitely I agree and I have always liked him and supported as well. It would be pity if he is not around anymore but If I was a team boss he would not be my pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by go mads
i have always been a fan of the those drivers who have natural raw speed, like Meeke, Latvala, Tänak etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
But for me, Meeke has had enough chances. This year was his year to prove that he has changed but unfortunately its the same.
Like i said if he pushes then he makes mistakes, if he doesnt push and drives with his head then his pace is around 4-6th.
im not against the idea that he drives next year, but like you say, if you were a team boss you wouldnt pick him and i think the bosses in wrc think the same atm.
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/mo...ivers-of-2019/
Im sure this will cause a debate here.
First 6 are ok, even in the given order.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
After that it's like he went crazy..
Rovanpera is not a WRC driver and even if you would count him he (barely) delivered an obligatory title in a category with close to no cars. Being slower that a few other drivers surprisingly often.
4th driver in the WRC with highest (shared) number of podiums not on the list while all the 4 drivers that drove 3 extra rallies and still delivered worse results both in total and single rallies are there.
The Italians are claiming the news first:
"The contract Ogier has signed with Toyota is for only one season, since the Frenchman maintains his decision to retire after the 2020 World Cup. Evans and Rovanpera have signed for two years.
After this operation and the withdrawal of Citroën there are many pilots who have been unemployed. Esapekka Lappi is the one harmed by the end of the French team, and Jari-Matti Latvala and Kris Meeke discards Toyota. All of them have set sail for Ford M-Sport, their only salvation for next year."
https://as.com/motor/2019/11/27/mas_...o_rsoc=comp_tw
The first to come out is Thierry Neuville who admits that the new combination, at least on paper, hides (but not too much) great potential:
"Sébastien Ogier at Toyota is a big problem! The Yaris has repeatedly proved to be the car to beat with as many as three cars unattainable from the first day of the race. I'm not afraid of Ott Tänak's arrival in our stable, he will be able to bring information about the Japanese car and added value. But with Ogier starting with the Yaris everything becomes more complicated."
SpanishQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
edited: wrong thread.
It was actually the French who were first by a few minutes and the same text was copied by AS...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
https://www.fr24news.com/fr/2019/11/...ien-ogier.html
He wasn´t WRC-car driver but he for sure was WRC driver :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
and he did win 5/8 of his counted events...
but yes, he had some bad events also.
good read IMO https://pushingpace.com/wrc/analysis...alysis-part-1/
this vid is just awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uuWuos5Itw
Picking Sordo above Neuville is controversial but arguably could be justified, but picking Greensmith as 8th is quite special.
Also might call it strange to pick Ogier as 2nd, since he did struggle also on two rallies where Lappi got 2nd (Sweden, Finland).
Well it's Colin Clark and his opinion. Difference between me and you is that his subjective opinion is always being published.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Greensmith at #8 is an insult towards many drivers.
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I've had the feeling that they've been wearing some special pink sunglasses since Portugal.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
They are both British. He praise them as the gods. Simple.
Agree, great compilation!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Anyone know the very first spot in the clip? The Citroen Monte part?
long article in Finnish about Miikka Antilla published on 31 December 2019
lots of insight into the JML & MA partnership
https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11131817
no more 2019.
Please!