The Ferrari thread !

Ferrari has something to think about after the Turkish Grand Prix. In the race they might have had the third fastest car (in the last few years Ferrari has had a tendency to be more competitive in race trim anyway), but due to traffic we never had the opportunity to see that. Considering circuit characteristics I'd expect Ferrari to be stronger at Valencia and Montreal, but they seem to have an obvious deepening aerodynamical deficit. A consequence of the sacking of Iley?

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Originally Posted by jens

Ferrari has something to think about after the Turkish Grand Prix. In the race they might have had the third fastest car (in the last few years Ferrari has had a tendency to be more competitive in race trim anyway), but due to traffic we never had the opportunity to see that. Considering circuit characteristics I'd expect Ferrari to be stronger at Valencia and Montreal, but they seem to have an obvious deepening aerodynamical deficit. A consequence of the sacking of Iley?

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I think the fault lies in stefano. They are getting worse all the time. They dumped kimi and hired Alonso, because he was supposed to lead the team and every other crap like that. Reality has been different. Driver`s job is to drive, the leading is up to guys like Stefano. But he is failing at that job.

Ferrari is not the same team it was back when Jean Todt was the boss, Stefano is a nobody. But hey Luca, you just keep hiring italians and things will only get better.
Because I despise Ferrari after their treatment of Schumacher, Todt and Raikkonen, I am taking massive enjoyment from this. All we need is Massa to leave Ferrari too and I wont have anything that I like about that team.

Thanks for sharing. Any veterinary psychiatrist to give the man an advice?

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Originally Posted by eu

Thanks for sharing.

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You are welcome.

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Any veterinary psychiatrist to give the man an advice?

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Hey, I found a video of your recent family get-together on youtube. Let me share it with the kind people here :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daYvNM2IuOg

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I think the fault lies in stefano. They are getting worse all the time. They dumped kimi and hired Alonso, because he was supposed to lead the team and every other crap like that. Reality has been different. Driver`s job is to drive, the leading is up to guys like Stefano. But he is failing at that job.

Ferrari is not the same team it was back when Jean Todt was the boss, Stefano is a nobody. But hey Luca, you just keep hiring italians and things will only get better.
Because I despise Ferrari after their treatment of Schumacher, Todt and Raikkonen, I am taking massive enjoyment from this. All we need is Massa to leave Ferrari too and I wont have anything that I like about that team.

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That pretty much sums up my feeling for Ferrari, Massa is the only person I like in Ferrari, and right now , they don't seem in a rush to have him, once he's gone I doubt I'll have anything in the team that I like, Stefano seems more arrogant than people who have been massively more successful than him. And on Brawn, he is probably the best strategist in F-1 right now.

How can Ferrari go backwards when they have this amazing car-improver, Alonso?! They got rid of Kimi who couldnt develop the car. But now...really, really strange...this has to be a some kind of conspiracy!!

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Originally Posted by Shalafi

How can Ferrari go backwards when they have this amazing car-improver, Alonso?! They got rid of Kimi who couldnt develop the car. But now...really, really strange...this has to be a some kind of conspiracy!!

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Let's add to this that after Alonso has left Renault, the yellow-painted cars have made significant leaps forward and keep improving all the time, now having matched Ferrari in the last two weekends. Guess Alonso forgot his 0,6s to McLaren, so despite costing them 100M $ the last man to laugh is Ron Dennis. :p :

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Originally Posted by jens

Let's add to this that after Alonso has left Renault, the yellow-painted cars have made significant leaps forward and keep improving all the time, now having matched Ferrari in the last two weekends. Guess Alonso forgot his 0,6s to McLaren, so despite costing them 100M $ the last man to laugh is Ron Dennis. :p :

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I think the man who is laughing the most is one Kimi Räikkönen. He gets the money and doesn't have to spend another year driving an uncompetitive car and listening to constant undeserved insults from the Italian press.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I think the fault lies in stefano. They are getting worse all the time. They dumped kimi and hired Alonso, because he was supposed to lead the team and every other crap like that. Reality has been different. Driver`s job is to drive, the leading is up to guys like Stefano. But he is failing at that job.

Ferrari is not the same team it was back when Jean Todt was the boss, Stefano is a nobody. But hey Luca, you just keep hiring italians and things will only get better.
Because I despise Ferrari after their treatment of Schumacher, Todt and Raikkonen, I am taking massive enjoyment from this. All we need is Massa to leave Ferrari too and I wont have anything that I like about that team.

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I also think the problem is Stefano. A really nice guy but he looks totally lost at his job. I always get the impression he is 100% in react mode to what the other teams are doing, rather than confidently building a winning car. What's puzzling is, wasn't he Jean Todt's protege or maybe Luca Di Montezemolo forced Jean's hand on that one? But the problem really lies with the arrogant SOB by the name of Luca Di Montezemolo. He is the one who thinks it was him all along who turned around Ferrari's fortunes in the mid to late 90's.

Ferrari has not learned from it's past mistakes when it too at one time was basically the National Italian race team. It was in a rut until Brawn, Todt and an unknown driver (insert sarcasm) by the name of Schumacher showed up to turn around their fortunes.

Luca deserves everything bad that has recently happened to Ferrari since he pushed aside Brawn, Todt and Schumacher.

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Originally Posted by i_max2k2

That pretty much sums up my feeling for Ferrari, Massa is the only person I like in Ferrari, and right now , they don't seem in a rush to have him, once he's gone I doubt I'll have anything in the team that I like, Stefano seems more arrogant than people who have been massively more successful than him. And on Brawn, he is probably the best strategist in F-1 right now.

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Stefano has never come across to me as arrogant rather, just a nice guy. Now if you want to talk arrogant look no further than the President of Ferrari, Luca Di Montezemolo. He gives arrogance, new meaning.