Developing is also by drivers, Duez and Loix were know about their knowledge and the feeling to make the car better.
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Developing is also by drivers, Duez and Loix were know about their knowledge and the feeling to make the car better.
Volkswagen now has Ogier and there are rumours of Mikkelssen too.
So for Hänninen door looks closed... Maybe Hänninen's story with VAG is over and he becomes Ford's number two? ;)
Loeb was the developer for c4 and ds3.If Ogier had drive a prototype ds3 thats not making him a developer.My ''interpretation'' was at your point that '' he is going to develop the polo to suit him''.And that is not something right.Its not right because the challenge is to beat Citroen /Ford and not make a car that suit Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
developing is a job between drivers and engineers.Both of them must understand what they want,and must know how to fix it.Hope Ogier study the vocabulary asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
About the last sentence,of course he knows how things were done by citroen,but we don t know yet if vw can manage it at the same level.
Ogier at last rallies btw couldn t manage to set up proper his ds3.
To summary a little,it is good for Ogier and vw their co operation and i wish them the best.But we have to be carefull about predictions for a young team,and a driver who can t manage to finish rallies constantly after 4 years of his development.So we have to be a little carefull about what he is capable to do after one year outside wrc competition.
I think that the basic developer in Citroën is still the good old Bugalski. The best thing is to have top drivers and wise engineers in one person though not many of those are living on this planet. Anyway I'm not skeptic about VW abilities. So far they showed really serious approach and the latest informations saying they even plan hi-altitude test sessions in Mexico is just encouraging my feeling.
dimvii, draw it mild man ;) if they want ogier(and his teammate) to win, they should defenetly make the car fit him(and his teammate) and they defenetly will. and not make it fit to anyone, like ford does. citroens also fitted loeb the best...
i am mild darkstar but totally disagree when you say that ''they should make the car definetely fit him''? There is no existence of something like this.If a car is ''wrong'' from the drawing board is not going to fit anybody.If it is ''right'' is going to fit everybody knows to setup for each event.There is no fitment for a specific driver.Plenty of examples with rally cars,from wrc/s2000/grN/grA etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
It's unclear, but in an interview on WRR during Rally Germany some guy from VW said they would start the 2013 season with 3 cars - maybe 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Every works team should have 3 or 4 cars like ten years ago.
you always interpret so much...no idea why. i never said that they should build a car thats "wrong" and then make it fit to ogier, so for him it is "right" but for no one else or whatever. i only said that ogier can give his input, so the car will be perfect for him. everything else was said by you...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
[quote="dimviii"]Loeb was the developer for c4 and ds3.If Ogier had drive a prototype ds3 thats not making him a developer.My ''interpretation'' was at your point that '' he is going to develop the polo to suit him''.And that is not something right.Its not right because the challenge is to beat Citroen /Ford and not make a car that suit Ogier.
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The two things you say, building a car to suit ogier, and building a car to beat ford and citroen - IMO, these things are the same. If the car doesnt work for Ogier, he isnt going to win any events anytime soon! Vice-Versa, of course ;)
An example is Mcrae when he joined citroen. he was driving a car that was built around Loeb, ie- Richard Burns style smooth driving. The car wasn't really built for Mcrae's lunacy style driving, and therefor, he diddnt perform.