The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by eu

What about him?

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He's losing his hair?

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Originally Posted by eu

How about this year? Aren't your 2 words still there?

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So they must dominate every year then :?:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

So they must dominate every year then :?:

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I don't know, you tell me. He's not MY super hero. They've dominated half a season and everybody knows why... when the money was gone and everybody started exploiting the loopholes in the regulations they've turned back into the Honda we all used to know. He's hugely over-rated. I think he's very good but not brilliant.

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Originally Posted by eu

I don't know, you tell me. He's not MY super hero. They've dominated half a season and everybody knows why... when the money was gone and everybody started exploiting the loopholes in the regulations they've turned back into the Honda we all used to know. He's hugely over-rated. I think he's very good but not brilliant.

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We on Brawn still are we. He is a manager and a strategist but not a designer per se.

Time and again we have seen in F1 that when there is a title fight, the protagonist teams often suffer the following year as resources are diverted and put into winning the championship. Often, this is to the detriment of the following year's car.

Brawn is good, but he is not a miracle worker.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

True. But they didn't have the same amount of resources (and money) to develop this year's car which kind of supports "my" theory...

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Absolutely. The 2009 Honda F1 car has been develop since April 2010 and did cost approx. 700 million Euros, they used 3 wind tunnels 700 people in Brackley and Japan and had 3 different chassis developed.
Alone their budget was twice that of either Toyota, Ferrari and McLaren.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed. Alot of fans seem to forget Brawn is not a designer and much of the success throughout his career was achieved as part of a great technical team. Rory Bryne was a major factor in delivering performance on track, combined with Brawn's strategic mind, which was often overlooked. The same can be said for Adrian Newey who has a brilliant directive mindset, but is still only a component in a strong team at present.

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Newey may only be a component as you rightfully say but I and many others, I'm sure, are willing to bet that if Newey suddenly left Red Bull, things wouldn't be so rosy, in a, let's say, year and a half. Williams 96-97 comes to mind. They lost Newey in 96 and 97 they were not as dominant as before and 98 they were at sea.

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Originally Posted by eu

I don't know, you tell me. He's not MY super hero. They've dominated half a season and everybody knows why... when the money was gone and everybody started exploiting the loopholes in the regulations they've turned back into the Honda we all used to know. He's hugely over-rated. I think he's very good but not brilliant.

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1. His record speaks for itself, he's brilliant at getting things done, whether he designs a car or not, he gets the guys that can design cars, perform etc.

2. Take off your blinkers. Mercedes GP is not "the Honda we all used to know". They are one of the top 3 or 4 teams this season.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

We on Brawn still are we. He is a manager and a strategist but not a designer per se.

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Thats why he is such a good manager/team principal. He gets the right people for the job and delivers results. Thats what counts and why I rate him so highly. He is also very calculating and has a pretty steady head.

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The second pic is of Ferraris’ enlarged diffuser(new upgrade)I think it together with the top pic of rear wing stall device duct, looks to me like they have form fitted the body work in that area a little bit more, and tightened its @$$ up a la Red Bull!

How I hate this wagon station look! I know noone´s here for the looks but it looks just horrible.