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Having been involved in quite a few negotiations in Finland, I must admit I've never heard anyone being called "isovittu" before. One does not get that title just because of tough negotiations. I'd say it tells more about losing respect than just being tough.
What I love the most about this, is how Finnish Ilta-Sanomat tried to get hold of Tommi to confirm did they actually called Märtin with this name. I would love to hear the wording of the journalist when asking this from Tommi :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by robertr
Season to launch at the Autosport show again: https://www.autosport.com/asi/news/1...-season-launch
Maybe something along the lines ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Tommi: Mitäääää?
Journalist: Se on Mauri Mopo Ilta-Sanomista tässä terve! Tommi, kuultiin luotettavasta lähteestä että annoitte Märtinille hellittelynimen "Iso Vittu" kun Tänakin sopimusneuvottelut alkoivat mennä päin persettä. Vahvistatko?
Tommi: *ends the call*
Journalist: *writes that he couldn't get hold of Tommi*
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/nove...9--12-12-.html
Rally Japan 2019
Katsuta, Hiroki Arai, Heikki Kovalainen and PETTER.
Nice, Petter in a subaru in Japan, the audience going to be nuts :)
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Is he actually driving, or just a guest of Subaru.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Just a guest, Arai in Østberg's car from this year
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...ichigifu-2019/
Peugeot just announced WEC/Hypercar entry from 2022...wonder if that will have any impact on Citroen in WRC..
TGR has both nowQuote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
Hyundai has TCR + WRC
MSport has GT3 + rally
PSA could handle both also.
Ahh, I don't believe. They are acting like extreme cheapstakes lately so it wouldn't be surprise if they pull out. And right just when new regs apply in WRC.
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Originally Posted by pantealex
Physically yes of course, they have done it before....financially another matter. Develop both a new Hybrid WRC and the Hypercar at the same time...big costs.
Could share some or much development.
Honestly, it’s hard to guess. Untill last year, all PSA brands were runing major motorsport programs but after Peugeot WRX pull out and in face of Opel limited return (through Corsa eRally Cup) it seems things have changed and no one can be sure if they’ll improve after PSA/FCA fusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
On the other hand, Peugeot WEC participation is rumoured to be a venture with Oreca and Rebellion, making one believe it won’t be a full scale PSA investement. Nevertheless, bringing back Abu-Dhabi or getting a new Hybrid tech partner would certainly boost Citroen long-term chances. Fingers crossed.
Citroen were one of the biggest pushers of this new tech, it was a must for them or they are gone.
However I suppose if they see little chance of being successful post-Ogier against Toyota and Hyundai, maybe they'll decide the WRC isn't worth it financially regardless...
Yep, next year C3 upgrades and Lappi’s evolution are probably vital for Citroen future but I mostly fear they can make their long-term plans to depend on new partnerships. DS is in FE alongside a Chinese team (Techeetah) and this WEC program is rumoured to be a joint venture with Oreca (chassis) and Rebellion (runing team), with Peugeot mainly providing the engine/power train. If so, PSA seems to be leaving behind their full in-house programs and it’s hard to see outside partners able to run (and pay) a WRC venture with them. Hope to be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Hyundai Manu Champions 2019...
That's three different winners (M-Sport 2017, Toyota 2018) since the new 2017 Cars arrived.
Our review of 2019 aero modifications, test days and jokers. Hope you enjoy it!
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/11/14...ys-and-jokers/
And here's my review of the 2019 stages
http://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/11/1...n-2019-review/
Citroen won't stay in WRC beyond 2021, PSA confirms
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...rally/4597532/
What do manufacters do with all cars they produced? On ewrc info, each have produced more or less 20-22 '17 spec cars.
1. So some of them are racing and rotating
2. Few for testing
3. Few are sold (only M-sport)
4. Few are crashed/burned
And what about others?
Maybe they are used for sponsor exibitions, dealer centres and etc. ?
Yes, or standing in the garage. Not anything irregular amongst factories. Toyota has a few in museums, including Japan i believe. If you look at previous generations, VW for example, then you see that apart from a few (2?) converted into WRX, all are standing somewhere....like their Dakar Touaregs.
Yes, or standing in the garage. Not anything irregular amongst factories. Toyota has a few in museums, including Japan i believe. If you look at previous generations, VW for example, then you see that apart from a few (2?) converted into WRX, all are standing somewhere....like their Dakar Touaregs.
Redbull TV have posted a season review which includes some driver and team principal interviews filmed in Coffs Harbour. Very interesting answer from Seb Ogier when asked about what he is doing next year
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/event...ghlights-video
"Nothing I can tell you right now"Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
i just love the redbull tv show, so much better than ALLLIVE IMO, i wish they were instead of ALLLIVE or they should join forces or smth like that.
Yes but right before that he was saying about Citroën that "we will be stronger next year". So could be playing either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Portimao
D. Evans is actually very precise in distinguishing between "certain" and "likely" news in his articles.
Ex. when talking about Tänak earlier in the summer he wrote "set to" sign for Toyota..
Also right now he is saying that Evans will be announced at Toyota "potentially" with Ogier.
So there is still hope that we won't be down to effectively 2 team championship.
Btw. Milener basically confirms that Evans is going to Toyota, then talks about lots of others drivers now available and moves on to talk about young talents... like Gus Greensmith... uhh. Also kind of confirms Suninen.
I mean ok for Greensmith to pay for 3rd car and keep the team running, but MSport with only Suninen and Greensmith would be a disaster imo.
THIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
that was a clear confirmation for me there
and Ogier so cheeky with his answer, seems its Toyota after all then but cant be sure from that answer
But also many unemployed driversQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Can Mikkelsen bring enough money to buy a drive at M-Sport?
I doubt Andreas can bring enough money to pay for gas and food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi2
He is a Red Bull athlete, so some sponsorship is possible i would pressume.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
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Are Evans and Suninen paying much or anything? I can’t imagine Malcolm would pay them, but would be disappointed if drivers of the calibre of Latvala, Mikelssen etc would have to bring much money.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
I think Evans and Suninen are a part of the investment program where a share of their future salaries will go to M-Sport. It was said in an interview that they ”are supported financially”.
Not sure if it's good for the championship if Ogier goes to Toyota. Maybe if he drives atleast 2 more years. But he said the contract with Citroen would be his last one. I will lose some respect for the man if it was a lie.
http://www.speed-magazine.be/ogier-r...ng-tire-prise/
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Already starting to frame it as "having no choice" but to leave cause Ogier left them....Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Also says that Lappi will very quickly be announced at MSport, that's somewhat surprising, both since he had terrible year being the last WRC and especially because of who his manager is.
Lappi is much better than he showed in the Citroen this year, if he ends up in a Fiesta I think it could be good for both parties.
https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/11/20...-mondiale-wrc/ This site (at least) confirms what we've feared...