Yikes. Isn't it ultimately down to the WRC promoter though to put the calendar together? The FIA obviously have to approve/ratify it. But I didn't realise Todt had any say?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
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Yikes. Isn't it ultimately down to the WRC promoter though to put the calendar together? The FIA obviously have to approve/ratify it. But I didn't realise Todt had any say?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Ah, you're forgetting the FiA got their fingers burnt by Bernie - meaning they had little control over were the F1 calendar went. Since then, they've reigned in the other series so that they, the FiA have the final say; not the promoter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
It's pretty simple really. The FIA President is elected into office by the different FIA members. Those members are National Automobile clubs and federations. So it's in the FIA President's interest to make sure all these National Federations are happy. How do you keep them happy?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Give them what they want is a good start.
When this agenda goes the same way as the promoter's, then all is good.
Any questions?
Yes. A question you can answer, with your experience of having done WRC-seasons with 15 (or 16?) events. Is it practically possible for the teams and drivers to do more than 13 events per year? Keeping into count the testing days works drivers are having.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony Warmbold
I'm afraid that the cost of more events + more expensive cars (including developing those new cars) will lead to shorter events... Apart from all spectators and some drivers most people probably wouldn't mind...
If you add one more event then you add problems to weaker teams. And with weaker I mean teams with less budget than others.
The funny side in my opinion is that they invented, or try to put in, new rules (like start order, shootout) in order to affect front runners from richer teams and have a bit more tight fight during events. Now they're trying to increase the gap again...
As it's not hosting the season finale anymore I'd like to see Rally GB go a bit radical and switch to March as round three
That would mean the route must be almost finalized already before this year's event takes place, also it means 7-8 months less to secure the budget... Looks like mission impossible, except if they would skip the calendar for a year..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4688`
They should lose Sardegna, & Mexico and instead bring China if they want it so much and USA & NZ instead of Australia
big move from DMACK
http://dmacktyres.com/brivio--s-dmac...-top-wrc-teams
Read this morning and was about to share it here. As you said it's a big move. It shows they want definitely play with the big ones. Let's see.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Wilson+Dmack=Neuville?Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Maybe. i think Tänak has a big plus among the other drivers because he drove for them last year and helped to develop the tires.
Wilson+Dmack+huge wire transfer= Neuville :)Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
I don't think Tanak would be that happy Est. What you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Hopefully Dmack work their way in with privateers like before rather than throwing the chequebook at it. Prove the product first and maybe they could link up with Ford/M-Sport in 2017. Could be a nice fit.
Or slip back to October for next year and plan for March in 2017Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
In my opinion 15 or 16 events is ok but it's a heavy schedule and depending on logistics it's a budget question. Teams send kit overseas by container, while another set of kit is on the European continent for European events. Rally cars are sent at last minute by air freight. A guy like Kubica is skipping Australia because he'd need two sets of kit to do it, and maybe two cars, like we had when we were private in 2003 & 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
15-16 events is a lot – and probably requires even more spending. And, is the ‘return on investment’ really worth it?
Personally, I’d rather see 10-12 ‘proper’ events all with their own identity, than 15-16 generic WRC events – but that’s not going to happen.
Remember the saying, “Walk before you can run”
Is the WRC strong enough to have 15-16 quality events? Hmm..I’m not convinced.
Not happy because Neuville may be coming or what do you mean? It's just speculation at the moment, i think Dmack wont come before 2017. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Yes pure speculation. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
BTW I was referring to DMACK tyres. I don't think he loves him. They slowed him down in some rally. Am I wrong?
Yeah they still aren't on the same level as Michelin's or Pirelli's i guess, you could see it last year when Tänak was showing great pace in Sweden and Portugal but was nowhere in Rally GB with Dmack's.
The gravel tire is actually quit good(though not on level with Michelin) but the tarmac tire still is way off the pace of both Pirelli and Michelin.. But this is why they hire new people..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120614 why vw will continue kicking ass in 2017
Works for us OK after all we have to sit up all night and then go to work all day afterwards while following all the WRC events in your part of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Big respect to fans in Oceania and different timezones. Definitely something us Euros take for granted.
As has been mentioned elsewhere I don't think the final round has anywhere near the significance it used to.
Final-round championship battles used to be almost guaranteed - or at least that's what it felt like. Since the turn of the millennium we've had just six final-round showdowns. The last time it happened was 2011. For what felt like utter domination during the Loeb era, one third of his title campaigns were decided on the final round. What we'd give for that now under Ogier/VW.
If Ogier does win the title as expected in Australia it will be the most dominant season since 2005 when Loeb won it with three rounds to spare.
Of course big respect for you fans in NZ and Australia, I didn't mean to disrespect you by saying I don't want final round "down under". Just, you know, the break from one championship to the other seems to be eternity and, as an addicted rally fan, I want to enjoy the last round as many as possible.
BTW FIA has all the rights to decide to choose Australia as last rally of the year and it would be absolutely legit.
In the contrary, I hope for more rallys in your timezones, like China, South Korea and so on, we all deserve to enjoy as more action as possible. :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rally.html
Oh dear, this is tragic news. R.I.P.
[QUOTE=AL14;1063894]Of course big respect for you fans in NZ and Australia, I didn't mean to disrespect you by saying I don't want final round "down under". Just, you know, the break from one championship to the other seems to be eternity and, as an addicted rally fan, I want to enjoy the last round as many as possible.
QUOTE]
Yes know how you feel.
To make if a little more time (sleep) consuming, many Kiwi's have been following not only the antics of Hayden Paddon & John Kennard but also of Scott Dixon in Indy Cars plus Mitch Evans and Richie Stanaway in GP2 and then there is all the group racing sports cars in Europe.
At least we can follow all the Kiwi's running in the Aussie V8's at a reasonable time.
To date it has been a long year and we still have a team known as the All Blacks and the Rugby World Cup to come.
With the success of NZ drivers, all the more reason for RallyNZ to be in the WRC, rather than the current Rally Australia.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120700 Safety meeting following the deaths in recent rallies around the world.
http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/News...-end-September and perhaps super license for 2017 world rally cars.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120720 China postponing the issue of the calendar and 12 or 13 events next year most likely..unlike what we heard from Mr Todt. about 14 events.
Super license seems like an pointless FIA money-making exercise. We shouldn't be putting up any more barriers for people to get into top machinery. There are already more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
yeah tell that to the FIA...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Makes no sense at all. Once again, the FiA are completely out of touch. Instead of addressing proper issues, this is all they can come up with.
i agree with super licence but it should be a bit more than paying an amount to the FIA like it is done with all the "chicks with D%%%s" in F1.
Apparently Swedish rally Service park will be moved for the 2016 rally. From Hagfors to Karlstad. Imo someone really had a brain freeze when
that decision was made. :arrows:http://www.vf.se/nyheter/hagfors/ser...s-fran-hagfors
FIA have demanded this since there are not enough hotel rooms (and likely also not enough party party) in Hagfors.
If Swedish rally wouldn't have complied the rally would have been dropped.
The new service area will be at the outer harbour in Karlstad. Somewhere in this area: https://www.google.com/maps/@59.3677.../data=!3m1!1e3
Far away from the stages unless they plan on moving the stages southwards as well.
http://www.vf.se/nyheter/hagfors/ser...s-fran-hagfors
Super licenses, moving Sweden south, dropping Corsica for China...... what's going on here?
Moving Sweden service further south seems ridiculous, but no more so than some of the other unnecessarily massive commutes that are being made these days I guess.
It will not be the first time the Service park will be located in Karlstad. As already most of the staff / teams had to be located in Karlstad because of the lack of accomodation further north and also overnight-halts have been in Karlstad before its not that big deal.
Stages will be run in same area with tyre Fitting zone in hagfors on Saturday.
Interesting will be where the shakedown will take place, probably it has to be moved too.
http://www.rallysweden.com/2015/09/n...-rally-sweden/
EDIT: hari's link answers a lot of questions.
It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I went this year and loved it but wasn't overly impressed by the service park
To be honest Rally Sweden isn´t the rally to visit both SP and stages and thinking you could come along with that in an easy way. RS is not like NORF, where everything is smoth. It´s also winter against summer. The choice which event to visit is easy.
But coming to RS best way to attend is to stay in the Hagfors area and just visit stages. Skip Karlstad!