Petter Solberg WRT

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

What you call "character" some see as , well very politely anyway the triumph of promotional ability. Sure he's able to beat all the "buy a ride/---what were once known as "gentleman drivers" but..... but...........

For a Norwegian to be so .....so...well for a Norwegian male to even speak in the first place is shocking to anybody who has lived a few years in the Nordic countries, but so much glitz and glitter and just raw HYPE, well it's unnatural.

I wish him well but geeze turn down the hype machine.

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I kind of see what you're saying. But all this talk of raw HYPE. I don't see it like that. What hype?

I think there is a difference between passion and promotion too. Especially now when his best days have faded. The guy still wears his heart on his sleeve - which granted is not a character trait normally associated with Norwegians - but essentially you are just calling him fake.

I dont see hype. I certainly don't see glitz and glitter. I see an emotional guy who has the burning desire to compete. Just because he doesn't fit in within national stereotypical paramaters. That's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Kom nu, drengen!
Se?? It's that sort of totally unrealistic infered comparison of grouping that makes many of us who have been around since 'Mästern' Blomqvist was still in Saab 96 and teammates with Per Eklund that makes us think far too many of you 'Vikingar' have been drinking way too much mjöd (mead to you other guys)(and I think Burns should be in that group either)

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nu, jäklar ;)

that comparison was a reply to Koppumsbo`s "one time champ" rant, those mentioned was "one time champs" Per Eklund never made it but he is still driving and will do so til he is 70 he says so...

Jag är inte besviken - jag är förbannad! :D

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I kind of see what you're saying. But all this talk of raw HYPE. I don't see it like that. What hype?

I think there is a difference between passion and promotion too. Especially now when his best days have faded. The guy still wears his heart on his sleeve - which granted is not a character trait normally associated with Norwegians - but essentially you are just calling him fake.

I dont see hype. I certainly don't see glitz and glitter. I see an emotional guy who has the burning desire to compete. Just because he doesn't fit in within national stereotypical paramaters. That's just my opinion.

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Look, I know about passion for a motorsport driving your whole life, and I know about the need for a "promotable" image, and I can't find exact English idiom or phrase in common usage, so we'll have to hope that some of the boys from "upp i Norden" can make it more precise.
The phrase I want to use is he makes often 'en spel till galleriet' which would be "a play to the galleries" in English but I don't think that phrase is used so commonly in today's English.
Another might be "feberellt glädje''.

Think if Solberg and think of Grönholm.
Grönholm I understand, like and respect. He gets excited, he gets humorous, he can be frustrated, and he can be serious, but there way less TENSION in his persona that what I see obviously in Solberg despite the fact he may be smiling.

I worked among Swedes and Finns in Sweden for 7-8 years, been doing business there for nearly 40 years, I know their characters, I know their culture, and I know the differences between the countries cultures, Solberg is flat wierd for a Norwegian. Especially for a guy in motorsport.
Maybe his public ''persona'' would be better in Los Angeles.

No, guys you just have to lay off this crap talking in this topic.

In this topic we should talk about the good thing of Petter driving the WRC next year in either Ford or C4.

The crap you serve here about him as a nobody or whatever you find out is just rubbish.

Go to the ladies forum and have a nice gossip with the other girls!

Here we want to talk nice things about a nice guy living for his sport.

You must accept him from now on. :evil:

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Thats the point Sulland, every Norwegian seem to live around petter in a way where is no realism left. Its better to face the facts, petters carreer is about to come to an end.
In norway it would be clever maybe to invest the limited sponsor money on new talet, instead of still feeding guys who has done their work as road opener already.

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I was about to say something similar. No offence to any driver, they all deserve respect (I really hope a good deal to Mikkelsen soon). But it is sometimes funny to see the naiveness of the norwegian fans...

Well I guess I would be so excited as well, if we would still talk anbout Markko's driving etc.

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Thats the point Sulland, every Norwegian seem to live around petter in a way where is no realism left. Its better to face the facts, petters carreer is about to come to an end.
In norway it would be clever maybe to invest the limited sponsor money on new talet, instead of still feeding guys who has done their work as road opener already.

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Perhaps you should read back over some of your own recent posts Tomi.

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Originally Posted by RS

Perhaps you should read back over some of your own recent posts Tomi.

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What are you talking about, i cant remember that I ever have been whining when an old driver call it a day, or been against new talent.

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Well, he is doing now things that are just as important than the driving.

No mather what talent, what age, what driver or whatever you put in a WRC car, he can't win.. Unless he's in a M1 car and is a priority driver..
Maybe Petter never will win again, but the hunger for a win is a lot bigger for him then many other drivers... At least it seems that way..
Anyways..if he's finnished or not, what he put together this year, and all he had to think about besides driving and testing the car.. Deserves a medal... In my eyes anyway.. But.. I'm Norwegian..

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Originally Posted by JFL

what he put together this year, and all he had to think about besides driving and testing the car.. Deserves a medal... In my eyes anyway.. But.. I'm Norwegian..

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Offcourse it was a big achievement to put together a team in such short time, I wonder if he will do the same next year, or maybe he will do like henning has done.