Tremendous career in rallying and a man who's forever linked to Finnish rally history as well due to believing in one Tommi Mäkinen when no-one else did. RIP.
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Tremendous career in rallying and a man who's forever linked to Finnish rally history as well due to believing in one Tommi Mäkinen when no-one else did. RIP.
CITROËN RACING WILL SEND MADS ØSTBERG TO THE WRC’S AUSTRALIAN FINALE IN A THIRD C3 WORLD RALLY CAR IF SÉBASTIEN OGIER KEEPS ALIVE HIS HOPES OF A SEVENTH TITLE IN SPAIN NEXT WEEK.
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/octo...6--12-12-.html
I don't get why it says Østberg couldn't score manu points. Is it because Citroen choose not to nominate him?
The other news in the article is that Hyundai is sending Sordo and not Breen.
This imo explains why Hyundai withdrew the entry in rally Japan WRC preparatory rally. Loeb didn't want to go and they had no other "tarmac" driver with i20 WRC experience.
So he can use the guest driver test days next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Huh, didn't know it was tied to manu nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
That also means Tideman, Paddon and Greemsmith can't do that next year. Not sure MSport or the drivers thought of that when MSport nominated them.
Why they didn´t enter him to Spain as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredouye
Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
This wasn't really a thing before the test days were reduced for 2019. Originally it was meant for actual guests like, say, Petter Solberg or Marcus Grönholm to do some development on the car.Quote:
66.4.4 For Manufacturers, 7 additional test days may be allocated to each team in addition to Art. 66.4.2.
These additional days will only be applicable to guest drivers who have not been nominated to score points
up to the requested testing date in the Manufacturers Championship in the previous or current year. Teams
should advise the FIA of any guest drivers’ test, by email, five days in advance, with copy to all other
registered teams (no test form required). The test must comply with articles 66.1 and 66.2
It's OK, they've got Matthew Wilson. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Because he's less likely to take points off the top driver's there. Plus they probably dont have the budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Does budget count? So he has to pay if going to Aus and give points to Ogier? Nope. Don´t believe you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I'm saying Citroen dont have the budget to run 3 cars, as Budar confirmed recently. They need that money to develop the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
But he's only going to AUS as a final contingency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
If the championship is lost, there's no cost, because there's no third car....
Fiesta WRC was shipped out and arrived in New Zealand this week...
That is a very interesting rumour indeed!! More testing before Australia? Testing for NZ next year? Who will be the driver?Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Of course not like that. But two rallies is more expensive than one, and Østberg is less likely to do better than Tänak on the tarmac of Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
WRC teams are not allowed to test outside Europe, so it must be a private customer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
or real Rally/Sprint/Show. Competing outside Europe is allowedQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Would still probably be a private customer ;) Paddon?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Says who ? Have not heard of this in NZ. A Fiesta Proto recently arrived in NZQuote:
Originally Posted by er88
One has appeared in Italy too...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHOIjNJW...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHOIjNCW...pg&name=medium
Bertelli's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
According to FB comments, it should be Bertellis ex yup
NO. New one. It looks Bertelli one cause it is grey (body kit is allways like that without decals). It should be chassis 12.
Ogier interview:
https://as.com/motor/2019/10/19/mas_...mpression=true
Do you think the Toyota is above ?
- Everyone knows that Toyota are in another category. Unfortunately that is so, but I think that now, although they are still ahead, it is a little less than before. We have to continue working, and in fact we have things for the future, with a new aerodynamics, but unfortunately we will not be able to use it until next year because the federation does not allow it.
Next year will be his last season. How do you see the changes in the calendar?
- I am 100% sure that it will be my last year
strange how quickly he has forgotten that the VW he drove, was not in another category but from another planet back in the day.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
From his comments on the future and the new aero, it seems that although in the recent tests the C3's understeer was fixed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
but he states the aero cant be used until 2020 ?
A source told Autosport: "That's a lot of work all around the car.
"It's going to be interesting to see how much of that comes, but if they're not using it then you would ask the question of why Ogier would be driving the car with it on - especially at such a crucial time of the season."
During the Rally Spain test the C3 WRC showed off a complete aerodynamic makeover, with a new splitter and additional wings above the front wheels, remiscent of the vanes seen on Formula 1 sidepods.
Citroen's technical director Olivier Maroselli wouldn't be drawn on the aero updates and which of them would be seen in time for next week's event.
But the Fiesta wasnt in which he won his 5th & 6th Titles...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
For me it's also strange that Citroen would use so much time on testing the new aero just before one of the two rallies where it matters most (together with Finland) and then not run anything. But stranger things have happened before.
yes, i know this Eddie, i was watching WRC then :D...and those years are the most impressive ones for me because the cars are quite equal now, and he still showed that he is the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But those 4 years with VW, there was just no competition for them, especially 2014 and 2015, thats what i call dominating.
But thats past, thats it from me about this topic.
Because Citroen and Ogier have half an eye on next year now, his final year in the WRC. They know this championship is very nearly over, its sensible to test this aero package as much as possible when they can, as we saw how Ogier/Msport struggled with the rear aero developments last year. Citroen HAVE to get it right for Seb.
So does anyone really know are Citroen even allowed to use it 2019?
Or have they used all their "Jokers"for 2019?
What`s strange? Their test days are limited on a yearly bases and they need to test it on high speed roads for next season. In November-December it would be too late for several reasons, test road availibility, limited time to make changes to the aero if needed etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Ogier said in this spanish article few days ago, that new aero was coming next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
article: https://as.com/motor/2019/10/19/mas_...75143.amp.html
Hybridization is not enough. At least for Volkswagen. The last great rider of the World Rally Championship left the contest by surprise and with a car under the 2017 regulation already developed as an indirect consequence of the 'dieselgate'. The same scandal that caused the entire VAG strategy to be rethought, including the competition areas of all its brands. Therefore it should not surprise us that François-Xavier Demaison was so categorical when asked by AUTOhebdo.
In a brief interview granted to the weekly Gallo the head of Volkswagen Motorsport ensures that they are not attracted to the step towards the hybrids intended by the World Rally Championship since 2022, as it is not consistent with the current positioning of the German brand: "The day when there are rallies with electric cars, there we will be ... but there may not be many to run with us. The brand is moving towards the electric and therefore sports programs must follow the same line. Hybrids are not enough. "
Even so, it is obvious that the combustion engine continues to have an important weight with regard to the customer-racing section, as it demonstrates that the Polo GTI R5 project is still going well. As Demaison explains in the same interview, for the time being the developments are focused on improving its reliability, although they do not rule out a greater evolution in two years.
https://www.diariomotor.com/competic...100-electrico/
I really hope Citroen does not quit rallying at the end of the season!
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/ar...oeglich-42463/
As I said a week ago... I'd be worried if I was Lappi just now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
The piece sounds a bit silly; we all know Citroen wasn’t allowed to homologate more jokers this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
ive been thinking all the time what the championship would look like without the top3
this is my maths before australia
1. Meeke 173
2. Latvala 170
3. Evans 164
4. Suninen 149
5. Mikkelsen 147
6. Lappi 139
7. Sordo 137
8. Loeb 98
9. Breen 26
10 Tidemand 23
keep in mind that Evans missed three rounds, Hyundai guys also with partial programs.
You left R5 drivers out also...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Rovanperä would be ahead of Breen and Tidemand.