It seems that there is no other justification then, and I made the right choice.
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It seems that there is no other justification then, and I made the right choice.
I don't get your aggression in the last few of your posts on this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
I completely understand your reasoning. Why buy a 3-series when you can buy an equally spacious equivalent Mondeo for several k less. 99% of the time you will not notice an objective difference between the two.
Which of those two is it that British consumers in particular want? Why is it that the cheaper of those two car models is struggling to make a case for itself in Ford's lineup while the more expensive one is (I think) Britain's best selling executive car?
Sure, you can tell me about the purity of the BMW's rear wheel drive handling blah blah blah but you wouldn't notice that in nose to tail traffic on the A406 where you'd be stuck most of the time.
The reality is that people do not want bog standard. They want special and are willing to pay a premium for it. Can you explain in objective terms what 'special' is? Nope. Is it measurable? Nope. Is it profitable? Hell yes.
This phenomenon is highly visible in many other fields so no need to get your knickers in a twist over its existence in the mobile phone market.
It was clearly implied that I was lying. How should I react to that?
Other than that, I haven't been aggressive. Persistence is not aggression. Claiming someone is dishonest is. Perhaps you should ask the other party why they are so rude?
I get that an iPhone is a more desirable product, just as a BMW is more desirable than a Mondeo.
My point is that, if, as it was claimed, a poster could not justify expense in another area of his life, why wasn't that the case in the area of the expense of a phone?
I make savings on practical things, so I can enjoy other things that are deemed luxuries. It's not been a bad philosophy so far.
I've asked if the iPhone offers something practical which is a requirement for his work, which is unavailable at a lesser price, as that would easily justify its purchase.
But it's been posted that I am not going to be responded to directly, so I guess that's something I'll never know.
Never mind. Life goes on.
some rumours about the new HTC One Max:
http://www.stuff.tv/htc/htc-one-max/rev ... -iphone-5s
http://www.stuff.tv/htc/htc-one-max/gal ... wid=102331
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/htc/htc-o ... ce-rumours
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/htc ... ctober-15/
a 5.9" screen is pretty big, perhaps almost too big?
And still they stubbornly seems to keep the built-in non-replaceable battery
which would be a big minus.
A 5.9" screen is far too big for my tastes but then again I feel a 5" screen is too big and they seem to sell very well. I'm sure like most devices in the market, this HTC will find its customer base. Perhaps those who want something near tablet size but phone capable? I prefer to be able to use my phone one handed so size is an important factor for me or lack of it perhaps lol.
That is a good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
My justification, from two years ago, was that the iPhone 4/4S was the best phone on the market, nothing else was really up to scratch.
I was gifted an iPhone 4 in 2010. I found it didn't fit me, the size was a real killer for me, so I gave it away and went back to my old Nokia. I had an HTC Wildfire S for a while, at the time I though it was a good size.
It was just a terrible phone.
It was painfully slow. The battery sucked. It my 3G usage was through the roof. Software glitches made automatically sent out SMS to people when they called me and I tried to answer...
It really wasn't fit for purpose, used it under a month. Went back to Nokia. Still have it lying around somewhere, can't be bothered.
By the end of 2011 I already needed a phone because everyone was free calling/messaging/skypeing.
I needed something that was usable. I use my phone a lot, easily 20+ calls a day, email, messaging maybe every 20 mins. I need something that works, and works well.
So I didn't want to get another mid-range phone like the Wildfire, and struggle with it.
I had really, 3 options. iPhone, Galaxy S2, Xperia Arc S.
Someone here mentioned the backside of the Xperia cracking. I read the S2 had issues with the screen. iPhone was the best option. Smoothness is a requirement. I spend a fair amount of time on my phone, and it has to be as good as it can be. I don't want to waste time, I don't have time to waste.
Right now, as I said earlier in the thread, the best value for money is the Nexus 4. It has the specifications very close to the top phones from Samsung/HTC/Apple, for half the price.
I want to upgrade now, I don't think Android is good as iOS. The fragmentation hurts it, mainly optimization.
Koz, thank you for your reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
I feel more enlightened, although I am a luddite on things like fragmentation.
To be honest, I'm still surprised to hear voices on the other end of the line.
I'm not afraid of elecetricity anymore, though. Just deeply suspicious.
Agree completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
However, for some, perhaps an iPhone is more important that a SKy+HD Sports subscription at £50 odd quid a month?
And if/as/when interest rates mean my mortgage repayments increase, SKY will be the first casualty! :)
I would actually say it is more important for me to have a decent phone that I use daily over a satellite package I would only really use exclusively for 10 races a year. When you consider a Sky subscription is £36 a month more than I pay for my mobile phone, there is a massive difference. I still get to watch free on Sky Go should I find myself at home while a race is on and the races are covered by the BBC mostly anyway. Its not ideal but its still not worth 50 quid a month when you consider how much it offers. You are basically paying for the exclusivity of being able to watch live which I generally can't do anyway, and the extra 25 laps for 10 races. When I compare that to a device that I use daily for business and pleasure, I can easily say the iPhone is more important. I doubt I could get help from my employer to pay for a leisure item either!Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I also need to point out that I used Android for a few years, 4 years in fact. I owned 3 HTC's, and a Samsung. There were many things that frustrated me with the OS and I have found iOS to suit my own personal needs much better. My company also don't let anybody who is not on Blackberry or iOS use the company WiFi. That may seem strange and quite a few question it but the stance remains. I had my reasons regarding my upgrade, I justified the cost at the time to myself and my employer, and I have had a good experience so far. I don't think 16 quid a month is a bad tariff and if it got to the point where I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't have it. Much like my choices elsewhere. Life is a bit of a bitch when you can't have all the things you want, which is why we prioritise. :)
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Originally Posted by SGWilko
I'm still not sure that Fragmentation issues justify extra expense though.
Unless it starts happening to me physically. When it might become a pressing matter.
Which is as good a reason as any for choosing an iPhone, and makes more sense of your purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Now, how much did your games console cost? If your free time is limited, what was the point of that purchase? I wouldn't think that playing games should be high on a young fathers priorities.
Only joking.
Although the PlayStation was the first thing that went in my house when the baby arrived. They don't tell you that in Ante-Natal class!
Fragmentation hasn't been a problem for Windows, which supports literally billions of combinations of hardware; and it's not really been a problem for Android since the bad-ish old days of 2.2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
Besides, it's even less of a problem now that the bulk of services run as a freely updatable system app, supported by pretty much every device currently on the market. Have a read of this: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/ ... g-android/ :)
That's good to hear, all sounded like the bad old days of Nokia where the carrier would have to approve the update - which they usually didn't.
About time for me to get a MacBook, should I get the Air or the Pro ? All advices are appreciated, just don't bother trying to change my mind, it will be an Apple :p:
Depends how much lugging about you are doing to do with it. If it's just sat on a table then the Pro is better because of the better screen etc, but if you're taking it around or on the sofa etc you'll want an air - or an iPad Air ;)
Mark - iPad air was a brillante idea by Apple ( this in reference to the heavy weight issue of the large iPad I purchased a while back)
Was to be expected as it's the same design and width as the original iPad Mini.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
It will be an Air with 8 GB RAM, getting today :D
I'd love a Mac Book Pro as my home laptop, but boy are they expensive. My wife has one from her work and the OS is lovely to use. A couple of years ago I asked my wife's cousin who is a programmer for Dell what he would recommend. I was hoping he'd get me a Dell laptop with employee discount, but he said if you want reliability, sound build quality and excellent customer service, buy a Mac. His wife has a Mac and obviously all his stuff is Dell, but he really rates Apple's computers. Not being able to afford a Mac I bought a Dell Inspiron from Curry's, and I have to say in 2 years I've had to have it repaired twice. My previous Acer laptop lasted 3 and half years with no issues whatsoever. I've always used PC's primarily as they are cheaper and you can put hooky software on them easily, but if money was no object I'd get an Air or Pro. I would be able to do CAD on it , however I rarely use my home PC for that these days as I have a laptop for work too. Its what you prefer at the end of the day and I know there are a few guys here who are very into their PC building and have a totally different set of preferences again. Some of the conversations here go way over my head when talking about technical specifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
With a market so big, I don't think there is any right or wrong answer with what computer is better for you. Its the same with mobile phones even if we often have the 'my phone is better than your phone' discussions. I don't think you can go much wrong with either a PC or a Mac. :)
Nice nice :D What storage?Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
256 GB :D
I wish people would stop describing as an own type of computer because it's not. :angryfire :pQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
A Macinstosh IS a PC just as much as a computer with a Windows or Linux. :dork:
Life is too short to get hung up on technicalities!Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
God it annoys me when people say they are going to Hoover the house. Its a vacuum cleaner, Hoover is a brand!!! Ahhhhhh!! :angryfire :p
Sorry I grew up when the Mac vs PC debate of the 90's hit an all time high so the term 'PC' has stuck as a way of describing a Windows computer for me. I apologise in advance because I will keep referring to them as a PC. :)
Have to disagree, the 'PC' is a shorthand for IBM-PC Compatible and has long been established as meaning a machine running a Microsoft operating system. You may describe a Mac as a PC if you want, but that's not the general usage of the term.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
I disagree in return to some extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
A PC is a (personal) computer that is designed to be able to use at home by regular people.
Unlike servers or main frame computers that is operated by expert staff.
Once upon a time there was some differences both regarding the hardware and the software.
Mac's were mostly used by advertising firms, graphic bureaus, Printing companies and etc.,
not so much be regular people.
Nowadays the difference between a MacBook and an Asus laptop is almost none.
Different OS and some minor aesthetic difference but if you like you can use Windows on
your MacBook and MacOs on the Asus since both uses the same hardware.
Both is used by regular people at home and by people who is at their work.
So I'll stick with my claim that a Mac is just as much a PC as a computer with Windows.
I think calling one a Mac and the other a PC saves confusion regardless of the historical links.
Exactly. Since "PC" generally describes every variant of computer which generally just runs Windows and "Mac" describes (only) Apple products which run the Mac OS, it's simply a way to avoid confusion. Sure, the Mac is a personal computer. But if one wants to be broad about it, so are most tablets and even a great many phones these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
If PC's are Windows machines and Macs are Macs, what are Linux machines? Other than near extinct? :D
Geek computers? :p
tell me about it :dork:
I spent most of this weekend scouring log files and setting up rss feeds, iptables and fail2ban on my donkey pi, and I still can't putty to it from my work computer :dozey:
Linux is far from extinct. It dominates the server word. Just it's only us sysadmins that see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
You post on this forum; you're using Linux.
My phone is showing occasional signs of age at the moment, but it's still going. I do research from time to time which one I would get if mine died.
Obviously having an iPhone 4S the logical progression is another iPhone. But they haven't exactly changed much since the iPhone 4 came out, but the biggest issue against the competition is price. Even on a 2 year contract you're still talking an upfront fee of about £300 when most Android phones for the same tarrif have no upfront fee.
At the moment if I had to buy a new phone tomorrow it might be the Google Nexus 5.
Just buy it Mark. I feel you have already convinced yourself you want to jump to Android and now is the best time as you have seen the phone you like anyway. I had a play with a Nexus 5 recently and it still wasn't enough to tempt me back to Android, but we all have different tastes when it comes to refinement and you being a techy sort of person will probably enjoy it a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
There's no point at the moment; as my iPhone is perfectly functional. I'm just like to keep to do date on things.
The rumour mill suggests next year we may see 2 iPhone releases again, this time a 4.7" version and a 5.5". Not sure how I feel about them going that big as I like a 4"screen for my pocket.
I think the situation Mark is in is one of the few flaws in the Apple sales model. There are those ready for a possible change, but not ready for a change large enough to warrant the price of the next level higher of iPhone. Most of the Android phones have options at more price levels, and with the lower price in many cases buyers will upgrade more often.
Not sure how big I will look at next phone. My current is about 4" I think, but I realized that it's really almost already to big for a front pocket (to avoid sitting on it) but room to spare for a back pocket. Lots of good choices out there as always.
I wager 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
4" = 6C
4.7 = 6
5.5 = 6S
This will totally freak Daniel out. I have inherited the Toshiba Ultrabook with i7 core and a mini ipad with 64 gig memory from my dearest. I am now charging my new Samsung SIII with 4G, and I will get my 10 years old grandson to install Candy Crush plus whatever games he considers I need on the SIII also. Thenwith Candy Crush installed on all 3 devices, (as well as my own PC downstairs) I will have all the lives I need and be able to cheat my way well into the hundreds (games). :D
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-jury...195709961.html
This will give the Apple haters something to be upset about for a while. It might even add a couple names of forum members to the tasteless contest of who might die this year. Heart attacks and stress take some people early in life.
Looks like the new iPads have severe issues:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1672632