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€345 000 for a new 26 Rally1 is less than a new Rally2, not sure for all brands, but for some.
Lets give the new class a chance, but knowing the engineers capabilities, maybe FIA went 1 step too far, and made it even simpler.
I would have liked the minimum length size to go from polo to golf size, so minimum 4300 mm. This would improve safety inside the car, and male them less nervous to drive.
Rally2 car costs around 250,000, while development was 1-2 million... WRC27 will "cost" 345,000 and development will be??? 20 million. Lancia said it loud. It does not make any point spending so much if you have similar and way cheaper car to build. Why would anyone else bother? I mean tuners and potentially new teams. Toyota of course would build the car even if it would costs 500 million, so I don't count them. But I too don't see a point in all those non-sense. At the end everyone will follow that route (and Toyota might too) adopt Rally2 car and what do you think will happen if no one will run WRC27 car?
Rally2 cars have gone up by a loot.
Tanak's team selling one fully rebuilt/but still used Yaris rslly2 for 370k..
Looks very nice, but that price is heavyy :D
FIA price cap is one of the biggest scams ever ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
no one respecting this, Skoda and Toyota are far over 300.000€, already on the level of this so called 2027 Rally1.
Why would the developement be 20 milion lol... I doubt it will cost more than Rally2 to develop it, the parts are more or less the same, except with WRC27 they don't have to worry about the limitations of the base chassis.. Only downside is the cost of FIA chassis vs road car chassis, but that probably won't matter that much when they'll be produced in higher numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Believe me, it will cost way more as it is capped at. That's why no one stand in line for those cars and everyone stands in line for Rally2 cars. I don't like it either, but the reality sucks. FIA (again) fucked up (I'm not sorry for bad words) for their (too) late decisions. It's not anymore excuse about "new promotor" because there isn't decided on that yet. It's them, and only them. I think that those who sits at the oval tables never actually saw the sport and have bunch of papers with numbers infront of them thinking they are doing great, and of course get fat paychecks for nothing.
Does anyone know how big a difference there is between the Rally1 Car spaceframe and the proposed new WRC27 spaceframe ?
I just wondered if Hyundai and MSport could use their Rally 1 spaceframe and switch to Rally2-spec components ?
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Originally Posted by deephouse
Why is this one so Expensive?
https://rallycarsforsale.net/ads/toy...ris-gr-rally2/
Because you can use it tomorrow on the rally, for new one from TGR you will wait at least few months (I don`t know exact lead times for differenta rally2 cars at the moment - but situation was the same when new Skoda came, lead times were more than one year - for sure if your are not important team or have very good connections).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Rally2 cars costs 250.000 without VAT and without transformation kit (from tarmac to gravel and vice versa) plus set of tools for gearbox, diffs and some optional parts. (hydraulic jack, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
You can get it faster without waiting for a new build, but the owner requests a lot.