The cost of gun injuries on medical insurance is infinitesimal. Auto injuries alone are orders of magnitude more costly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
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The cost of gun injuries on medical insurance is infinitesimal. Auto injuries alone are orders of magnitude more costly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Sorry, I was expecting figures!Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Actually you do have a right to a Free Market. It is up to you to earn the money to be able to purchase it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Sad that so many people seem to have an distinct inability to actually know what a right is
There is no right to free healthcare. Healthcare cost Money. Obamacare alone will cost Trillions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
http://www.atr.org/fiscal-cliffs-hid...tax-hike-a7375
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Originally Posted by SGWilko
That is not the point. I WILLINGLY pay for my health insurance. I decide what my Healthcare will be, Socialized medicine is funded by the Government taking money by force from the productive members of society to buy support from the unproductive.
Classic Curley Effect.
"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
Have you ever heard of the word "contextomy"? If not please do look it up. Here is an explanation of the true meaning of the quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
"He was referring to the Indian Arms Act of 1878 (which was amended several times over the ensuing decades). This Act was, in practice, a total gun ban enacted to protect the British realm from an insurgency. By banning firearm possession for all but those authorized by the Realm they were able to all but do away with both military and private arms as almost no one was ever authorized.Mr. Gandhi, as you correctly state, was a lifelong pacifist. But, he understood that in the extreme a society needs to have the capability to defend itself from invasion and oppressive governance. This is not contradictory. It's merely an acknowledgement of the existence of extremes. I have in person heard the Dalai Lama (another life long pacifist) state the same thing. In short, pacifists are not entirely blind to the possibility of a need to defend oneself from extraordinary violence. However, they do believe that in most cases where one man would choose to take up arms passive resistance would be the superior choice. In India that proved to be true. In the Germany of the 1940's it wasn't. However, one of the first things that Hitler did was ban all the guns.
As far as the "Right to bear arms" crowd is concerned; this quote is far from mis-attributed"
The right to bear arms was in order for the Indian people to protect themselves against an invasion. This included the Indian Military being armed as well, not just the poeple, and it was certainly not against there own domestic people, as currently in america. This cannot be related to America as you already do have a military that is armed. So how in any way, shape or form can you relate this to personal gun ownership in America?
Sure I could call him a hypocrite in a nicer way, just don't feel like it given that his only interest in the thread was to call us all imbeciles who are flogging a dead horse. he also left this thread about a zillion times already just to come back again and again with lil' snappy comments from a self proclaimed high moral position.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Yes we can. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
What bothered me most is how you dismissed this thread when you joined it first, then you left several times as it was 'going nowhere' just to come back and school us again and again.
Anyway, I hope we can put this to rest now.
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Sure everyone else is at fault, but not those who want guns everywhere, like if guns can solve a gun problem anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
I say you and your like are at fault for all these shootings because you are against the changes which would in the long term put an end to them, and all this just for the pathetic egoistic reason that you want to feel stronger by owning fire arms cause otherwise you are afraid of the world around you.