Mexico 2012

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Originally Posted by sollitt

You are suggesting that only "the best" drivers ought be permitted to drive the best machinery whilst everybody else should be limited to something lesser performing?
This is certainly not the sport that I've supported for decades and I doubt there'd be many on here who would agree with you. In fact one of the most common beliefs as to why the WRC is in it's present parlous state is the very fact that allcomers cannot compete on a level playing field with the manufacturers 'A teams', thereby denying them the opportunity to shine.
As I've said many times .... rallying's significant point of difference is that it is inclusive, not exclusive, and remember the cream will always rise to the top if you let it. Limiting accessibility is against every principle the sport is founded on.

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you are not limiting accesibility to the sport.... you limit the accesibility to the best equipment to the clowns... and if those clowns do not want to compete in WRC because they do not have the best equipment well that proves that they are here for the spotlight and not the sport...

they can drive the best cars in lesser competitions if they want...

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Originally Posted by Francis44

Yes that's how it should be. Here in Portugal i've seen a few idiots get arrested because they did not obey the Police or simply because they were taking the piss at them, so they should do the same.

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thats what i said... when someone is braking the law...those who are in charge of imposing it should act...and in this case the marshals.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

you are not limiting accesibility to the sport.... you limit the accesibility to the best equipment to the clowns... and if those clowns do not want to compete in WRC because they do not have the best equipment well that proves that they are here for the spotlight and not the sport...

they can drive the best cars in lesser competitions if they want...

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I think you should get less accessibility to the internet.

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Originally Posted by logic

I think you should get less accessibility to the internet.

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why ?

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Originally Posted by tmx

I think its time to retire Mexico from the calendar.

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+1,000

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

SS20 is being ruined by spectators placing large rocks on the road. Caused Ogier to have a puncture, and Araujo struggled past them too. Stage may be stopped I think?

edit: stage seems to be continuing...

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Piece of real MORONS these spectators !!!! :mad:

Hi guys:

I hope you don’t mind this long post, and i’m sorry my bad English, but i’ll try to explain my personal point of view about the serious situation about the stones on the rally road.

As you know i'm Mexican and i am rally fan since 2004, I know the organizators are working hard to try to avoid this kind of bad actions, but i can’t deny it's very clear to me some people is trying to stop the Mexican rally, (and they got it on stage SS9), it breaks my heart when organizators said that they don’t have a specific reason of why people do this criminal acts.

Spanish link: Espectadores lanzan piedras a vehículos del WRC | La Afición

I think is less probable the stone attacks are simple vandalism acts made by drunk people because this kind of people don’t know the rally road, drunk people just couldn’t choise the right spot in the rally road to attack the competitors and remain unpunished for so long time, along the years I've seen a lot incidents with drunk people on sunday and saturday, but it's very strange to see drunk people incidents on friday.

I think is more probable the stone attacks were made by People that live inside the rally road and they are no happy with the rally, the reason could be incidents during the reece days before the rally, The last wensday I saw damages on the hungarian reece car, (they used a white mitsubishi evo X), I saw damages on its front in the second reece pass, the Friday some spectators told me that they saw a red mitsubishi evo race car with the windows damaged, even they thought that the car rolled over, but they got surprised when they saw with more detail the car, spectators notice the rally car had stone impacts in all around of its car body, it could be impossible that damage were made by only one person, it’s hard to believe that was only a vandalims act, it seems a revenge act to me.

Incidents in the reece are not strange, This year I spoke with a unhappy person in SS9 that told me “in the last year reece one competitor crash my car in the front and he refused to pay my car damages even when he was driving so fast”, he couldn’t told me who driver was because the unhappy person doesn’t know nothing about rally, This year, at the start of SS9 a Truck Driver told us that he was so close to crash with several reece cars.

I’m not trying to justify stone attacks, but people that live in rally roads are very kind, they are so nice and they are hard workers, they even offer help when you ask for it, but even the nicest person get anger when someone damages his belongings and nobody pay for it, that is not fair.

Some how, some way I think rally organizators should avoid this kind of reece incidents, It’s not a secret rally drivers don’t respect speed limit during the reece and that’s a bad habit that is difficult to eliminate, may be could be better if rally organizators close the road during the reece too.

Other posibility is that the stone attacks were made for unhappy spectators, because this year the Fia regulations for spectators were applied with no sense specialy on SS9.

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Originally Posted by tfp

These people should be banned from spectating :mad:

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Banned from alcohol too...no Corona for them anymore :rolleyes:

pics from saturday stages:
rallysport.hu - Rally Guanajuato Mexico 2012 - szombat

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Originally Posted by charro_wrc

Hi guys:

I hope you don’t mind this long post, and i’m sorry my bad English, but i’ll try to explain my personal point of view about the serious situation about the stones on the rally road.

As you know i'm Mexican and i am rally fan since 2004, I know the organizators are working hard to try to avoid this kind of bad actions, but i can’t deny it's very clear to me some people is trying to stop the Mexican rally, (and they got it on stage SS9), it breaks my heart when organizators said that they don’t have a specific reason of why people do this criminal acts.

Spanish link: Espectadores lanzan piedras a vehículos del WRC | La Afición

I think is less probable the stone attacks are simple vandalism acts made by drunk people because this kind of people don’t know the rally road, drunk people just couldn’t choise the right spot in the rally road to attack the competitors and remain unpunished for so long time, along the years I've seen a lot incidents with drunk people on sunday and saturday, but it's very strange to see drunk people incidents on friday.

I think is more probable the stone attacks were made by People that live inside the rally road and they are no happy with the rally, the reason could be incidents during the reece days before the rally, The last wensday I saw damages on the hungarian reece car, (they used a white mitsubishi evo X), I saw damages on its front in the second reece pass, the Friday some spectators told me that they saw a red mitsubishi evo race car with the windows damaged, even they thought that the car rolled over, but they got surprised when they saw with more detail the car, spectators notice the rally car had stone impacts in all around of its car body, it could be impossible that damage were made by only one person, it’s hard to believe that was only a vandalims act, it seems a revenge act to me.

Incidents in the reece are not strange, This year I spoke with a unhappy person in SS9 that told me “in the last year reece one competitor crash my car in the front and he refused to pay my car damages even when he was driving so fast”, he couldn’t told me who driver was because the unhappy person doesn’t know nothing about rally, This year, at the start of SS9 a Truck Driver told us that he was so close to crash with several reece cars.

I’m not trying to justify stone attacks, but people that live in rally roads are very kind, they are so nice and they are hard workers, they even offer help when you ask for it, but even the nicest person get anger when someone damages his belongings and nobody pay for it, that is not fair.

Some how, some way I think rally organizators should avoid this kind of reece incidents, It’s not a secret rally drivers don’t respect speed limit during the reece and that’s a bad habit that is difficult to eliminate, may be could be better if rally organizators close the road during the reece too.

Other possibility is that the stone attacks were made for unhappy spectators, because this year the Fia regulations for spectators were applied with no sense specialy on SS9.

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Some interesting points, Australia in 2009 had a stone throwing incidence, they were environmentalists who didn't want the WRC in the region. This was the main reason for the event moving to Coffs in 2011. Maybe don't run stage 9 next year if its someone who lives there, if it just spectators or something, then they will just go to another stage.