Rally History (part II)

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Originally Posted by dario

Thanks very much Jorge
j have a last question about this rally 1968, how many special stages ? ( j have 11, exactly ? ) and do you know the winner of special stages ? ( j have only 5 - 2 for Mikkola and Soderstrom and 1 for Orrenius )

Thanks in advance
Best Regards
Dario

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Sorry Dario ! I've been looking but none of those items you required are available !

Regards
jorge

Thanks Jorge
Regards
Dario

Graham Robson's book "Boreham" states there were 11 stages on the 68 Austrian Alpine, the first appearance of the Ford Escort TwinCam as a Group 2 car (previous homologation was only into Group 3).
The year 68 had some highlights (not least near-revolutions in many countries!) but was generally a disaster for European rallying (certainly the last half of the year) because so many factory teams were committed to the London- Sydney Marathon and had no money for other events. Saab was an exception as they did not do London-Sydney.
We now tend to look back at these Marathon events as only good but at the time some hated what it meant for the classic European events.

I'm still looking for names I don't have in the results
from rallies of the 50's (below).
I'm grateful if sombody somwhere can fill me in,
each and every additional name would be a treat.

RiN


1953:

Monte-Carlo:
3 R..... Marion - J..... Charmasson (Citroen)

Sestriere:
10 Emanuele Nasi - ?... Ceriana (Fiat)

Tulpen:
7 Theo Koks - K.... De Jong (VW)
8 J.... Scheffer - G.... Willing (Jowett)

Midnight Sun:
6 Owe Stålheim - E.... Frank (Citroen)
8 K.... E.... Andersson - O.... Tryggvesson (Fiat)

Alps:
8 Ferdinando Gatta - ?.... Cottino (Lancia)

Liege:
6 Franco Caramelli - ?.... Turbiglio (Lancia)
7 Oreste Barozzi - (Siro?).... Colombo (Lancia)
9 ?.... Bigoni - ?.... Curie (Citroen)

Lisbon:
1 Joaquim Filipe Nogueira - ?.... (Porsche)
8 Cuth Harrison - ?.... (Ford)
9 Fernando Stock - ?.... (Porsche)


1954:

Sestriere:
8. (Giuseppe?) (Atilio?) .... Buffa - ?.... Carabelli (Lancia)
9. Emilio Giletti - ?.... Cinti (Lancia)


Tulpen:
5. Jan Martens - ?.... Eerligh (Fiat)
8. Walter Ringenberg - ?.... Mader (Porsche)


Alps:
7. Bill Burton - ?.... Burke (Aston Martin)
9. Roger Rauch - ?.... Bousson (Salmson)


Liege:
4. Georges Houel - ?.... Blaise (Alfa Romeo)
10: Gilbert Sabine - ?.... Leroux (Porsche)


Geneve:
4. ?.... Deroux - ?.... Gouteyron (Alfa Romeo)
6. Carlo Bornand - ?.... Flury (Alfa Romeo)
9. ?.... Brun - Rolf Wutherich (Porsche)


1955:

Sestriere:
2 Luciano Ciolfi - ?.... Monaco (Fiat)
10 Guido Cestelli-Guidi - ?.... Cestelli-Guidi (Alfa Romeo)


Tulpen:
2 Bill Banks - A.... Meredith-Owens (Bristol)
4 Maurice Gatsonides - ?.... St.John Foster (Standard)
5 Rolf Mellde - H.... De Montesquieu (Saab)
8 John Boardman - J.... Whitworth (Jaguar)
10 Harald Stendeldt Hansen - N.... Bueshbaum (Mercedes)


1956:

Sestriere:
6 Giovanni Alberti - ?.... d'Errico (Alfa Romeo)
7 Casimiro Toselli - ?.... Zanardi (Fiat)
9 Giorgio Superti - ?.... Fiorani (Fiat)


Acropolis:
2 Nikos Filinis - N.... Chryssicopoulos (DKW)
3 René Fabre - M.... L.... Redon (Panhard)
6 G.... Termentzis - B.... Adossidou (Renault)
7 P.... Chenevoy - J.... Deguerce (Porsche)
8 D.... Stavrianos - G.... Margaritis (Renault)
9 C.... Nicolopoulos - C.... Cliopoulos (Opel)
10 C.... Lykouris - A.... Terzakis (Opel)


Geneve:
2 ?.... Beyer - ?.... Perrot (Porsche)
3 Bruno Martignoni - ?.... Vanini (Alfa Romeo)
4 Ruth Lautmann - ?.... Utermöhl (Ford)
5 Georges Houel - ?.... Beltramier (Alfa Romeo)
6 "Cedric" - ?.... Caleme (Alfa Romeo)
9 Robert Dubuet - ?.... Dupré (Peugeot)


Alps:
3 Chuck Wayne - D.... D.... Kripplen (Porsche)
10 Pierre David - J.... Metin (Peugeot)


Iberico:
All co-drivers in the first ten.



1957:

Sestriere:
1 Piercarlo Borghesio - (Giovanni?) (Aldo?).... Bianchi (Dyna Panhard)
3 Carlo Maria Abate - ?.... Mottura (Alfa Romeo)
7 ?.... Corcos - ?.... Janari (Fiat)
10 Giorgio Superti - ?.... Fiorani (Alfa Romeo)


Acropolis:
2 Henri Blanchoud - (Robert?).... Berger (Saab)
3 Nikos Filinis - ?.... Petropoulos (DKW)
4 Valter Karlsson - ?.... Kvarnström (DKW)
5 Petros Papadopoulos - ?.... Politis (MG)
7 Guido Cestelli-Guidi - ?.... Cestelli-Guidi (Alfa Romeo)
8 Alkis Michos - ?.... Antoniou (Alfa Romeo)
10 Kostas Nikolopoulos - ?.... Kaloudis (Alfa Romeo)


Tulpen:
5 André Jetten - P.... S.... Korte (Goggomobil)
6 John Wallwork - A.... Pownall (Alfa Romeo)
8 C.... I.... de Vries - J.... A.... Moorman (Ford)
9 Jan Martens - B.... H.... Eerligh (Fiat)


Geneve:
1 Stefan Brügger - W.... Tiefenhaler (DKW)


Midnight Sun:
9 Allan Borgefors - B.... Andersson (Porsche)


Adriatic:
1 Ruprecht Hopfen - ?.... von Lösch (Saab)
3 L.... Marini - L.... Tavolo (Alfa Romeo)
4 "Pegaso" - ?.... Campidoglio (Alfa Romeo)
5 Arnulf Pilhatsch - ?.... Richter (BMW)
6 Wolfgang Levy - ?.... Horst (Fiat)
8 Paul Guiraud - ?.... Britvic (Peugeot)
9 Milvoje Vukovic - ?.... Picek (DKW)


1958:

Monte Carlo:
2 Alexandre Gacon - L.... Borsa (Alfa Romeo)


Sestriere:
2 Edgar Berney - ?.... Decoppet (Alfa Romeo)
4 Anton Giorgio Stardero - ?.... Bonino (Alfa Romeo)
5 Armando Zampiero - (Mario?) (Arnaldo?).... Bongiasca (Porsche)
6 ?.... Ferrero - ?.... Sasserno (Alfa Romeo)


Acropolis:
2 Johnny Pesmazoglou - G.... Galanis (Chevrolet)
4 Nikos Papamichael - S.... Mourtzopoulos (Jaguar)
6 Alkis Michos - A.... Antoniou (Alfa Romeo)
10 Herbert Blancoud - (Robert?).... Berger (Saab)


Tulpen:
3 W.... Schorr - Willem Poll (Porsche)
6 J.... A.... Nielsen - V.... B.... Dam (Volvo)
7 Eberhart Mahle - H.... Vogt (DKW)


German:
8 ?.... Cortois - (Raoul?).... Martin (Triumph)
10 Keith Ballisat - ?.... Roberts (Triumph)


Adriatic:
2 Wolfgang Levy - ?.... Kaszynski (DKW)
4 Milvoje Vukovic - ?.... Picek (DKW)
9 ?.... Brindl - ?.... Menth (DKW)


Liege:
3 Robert Reip - ?.... Velge (Porsche)
6 ?.... Leidgeus - Claude Dubois (Triumph)



1959:

Monte Carlo:
3 Pierre Surles - J.... Piniers (DB Panhard)


Sestriere:
4 Renato Canaparo - ?.... Marsoglio (Fiat)
5 Hans Bauer - ?.... Ferrero (Alfa Romeo)
6 ?.... Bertoglio - ?.... Soler Roig (Alfa Romeo)
8 Giancarlo Sala - ?.... Ubaldi (Fiat)
10 Luciano Fontana - ?.... Fontana


Tulpen:
2 Keith Ballisat - E.... Marvin (Triumph)
4 Rob Gorris - R.... S.... Wiedouw (Porsche)


Acropolis:
3 Nicos Filinis - S.... Mourtzopoulos (DKW)
4 Alkis Michos - C.... Theodoracopoulos (Alfa Romeo)


Midnight Sun:
7 Carl Carlsson - S.... Pettersson (Alfa Romeo)


Alps:
10 Maurice Gatsonides - H.... Steunebrink (Jaguar)


Adriatic:
4 Robert Gentelini - ?.... Gentelini (Alfa Romeo)
5 Milvoje Vukovic - ?.... Picek (DKW)
7 Wojciech Schramm - ?.... Maurer (Volvo)
10 Carl Syberg - ?.... Nielsen (Volvo)


Liege:
5 (in GT-class) Karl Schöttler - ?.... Räker (Porsche)


German:
4 William Dodd - D.... Delling (Volvo)
7 Roland Ott - (Wolfgang?) (Wolfram?).... Schmitz (Mercedes)
10 ?.... Falk - Rolf Knoll (DKW)


Thank you for looking through the list !!!

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Originally Posted by RiN

I'm still looking for names I don't have in the results
from rallies of the 50's (below).
I'm grateful if sombody somwhere can fill me in,
each and every additional name would be a treat.

RiN


1954:

Tulpen:
8. Walter Ringenberg - Werner Mader (Porsche)

1955:

Sestriere:
2 Luciano Ciolfi - Ottorino Monaco (Fiat)

Tulpen:
2 Bill Banks - Bill? Meredith-Owens (Bristol)

1956:

Sestriere:
7 Vladimiro ? Toselli - Lamberti Zanardi (Fiat)

Acropolis:
8 Dimonikos Stavrianos - Georgios Margaritis (Renault)
9 Costas Nicolopoulos - Costas Cliopoulos (Opel)
10 Costas Lykouris - A.... Terzakis (Opel)

1957:

Acropolis:
2 Henri Blanchoud - Robert Berger (Saab)
3 Nikos Filinis - N?.... Petropoulos (DKW)
4 Valter Karlsson - S?.... Kvarnström (DKW)
5 Petros Papadopoulos - N?.... Politis (MG)
7 Guido Cestelli-Guidi - M?.... Cestelli-Guidi (Alfa Romeo)
8 Alkis Michos - A?.... Antoniou (Alfa Romeo)
10 Kostas Nikolopoulos - S?.... Kaloudis (Alfa Romeo)


Tulpen:
5 André Jetten - Heine Korte (Goggomobil)

1958:

Monte Carlo:
2 Alexandre Gacon - Leo Borsa (Alfa Romeo)

Acropolis:
2 Johnny Pesmazoglou - Costas Galanis (Chevrolet)
4 Nikos Papamichael - Stelios Mourtzopoulos (Jaguar)
10 Herbert Blancoud - Robert Berger (Saab)


Tulpen:
6 Jens A.... Nielsen - V.... B.... Dam (Volvo)

German:
8 H.... Cortois - (Raoul?).... Martin (Triumph)
10 Keith Ballisat - Peter Roberts (Triumph)

Liege:
3 Robert Reip - ?.... Velge (Porsche)
6 Robert Leidgens - Claude Dubois (Triumph)


1959:

Sestriere:
6 Arturo Bertoglio - Alex Soler Roig (Alfa Romeo)
10 Luciano Fontana - Angela Fontana

Acropolis:
3 Nicos Filinis - Stelios Mourtzopoulos (DKW)

Midnight Sun:
7 Carl Carlsson - Sigvard Pettersson (Alfa Romeo)

German:
7 Roland Ott - Wolfram Schmitz (Mercedes)

Thank you for looking through the list !!!

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That's what I could find !
Regards
jorge

Excellent!!
Thank you very much, jorge.

RiN (Tom)

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Originally Posted by RiN

1953:

Midnight Sun:
8 Karl Einar Andersson - O.... Tryggvesson (Fiat)

Tulpen:
6 John Wallwork - Arnold Pownall (Alfa Romeo)

Tulpen:
7 Eberhart Mahle - Hans Vogt (DKW)

1959:
Sestriere:

10 Luciano Fontana - Angela Zuppini Fontana

Adriatic:
7 Wojciech Schramm - ?.... Maurer (Volvo) - I am not sure it was a Pole Wojciech Schramm, there as a German driver Schramm, too - his name unknown to me, sorry. What makes me uncertain about Wociech is German-like family name of his co-driver and other is that I never heard about that kind of succes of my compatriot Wojciech Schramm who appeared in Poland in late 60's.

German
10 ?.... Falk - Rolf Knoll (DKW) - here I have "Falk", but maybe I'm wrong.

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regards
Janusz

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Originally Posted by jmrf

Can someone help to identify this picture, please (sorry if this isn't the correct place):
Is this McRae, 1993, San Remo ?!


http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1949/93sanxxga5.jpg

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Hi jmrf !

My guess, Colin McRae un Argentina 94 !
Sponsor Repsol just in 94 with Sainz in the team. Although the picture do not allow to see what rally 3 points : the plate of the rally is white, it's on gravel and most important that red stick on the window over 555.

That's what i think but not 100% sure !
Regards
jorge

Thank you for your help, Janusz.
I do not remember where I have got 'Wojciech Schramm' from,
but maybe there is some guesswork involved.
I will file it under 'not confirmed' for the time beeing.
Again, thanks for your input.

RiN

Here below are old and new questions on ERC. I miss following results:
1959
Adriatique 2-3, 6, 8-9;
1965
RACE 6-10;
1971
Chemines Nord 4, 7-10;
Semperit 4-8, 10;
Geneve 4-5, 7-10;
Coupe des Alpes 6-10;
1972
Arctic 7-10;
Costa Brava 4-10;
Neige et Glace 4-10;
Pneumant 5-10;
Scottish 6-10;
Firestone 4-10;
Semperit 7-10;
RACE 4-10;
Belgique 4-10;
1973
Arctic 4-10;
Costa Brava 4-10;
Lyon-Charbonieres 4-10;
Firestone 4-10;
Elba 5-10;
Ireland 4-10;
Tulpen 5-10;
Welsh 4-10;
YU 4-10;
Paris-St Raphael 2-10;
Semperit 4-10;
Donnau (Danube) 6-10;
San Martino di Castrozza 5-10;
Tour de France 3-10;
Munich-Wien-Budapest 4-10;
Cyprus 4-10;
RACE 2-10;

Thank you in advance for your help.
Janusz