Also don't think anyone has mentioned the 500 on Sunday is also in HD on SKY!
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Also don't think anyone has mentioned the 500 on Sunday is also in HD on SKY!
looks like on the sky forum people are not very pleased with skys coverage of Nascar, would be good to get some response from a sports editior at sky , all might help .
i just hope the producers listen to us fans on all this. if not i may just cancel sky sports and make do with torrents. i've done that for the past few years because i couldn't afford it, and i will do it again.
Aw crap. We pay all that money for Sky Sports and I didn't even realise that's where it had gone... All I knew was that it had disappeared from NASN...
Roll on 17th!
for those who missed pre race Busch vs Stuart interviews after alledged punch up.Waltrip and Hammond crack me up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1jdbSdgjc :D
Thats what we are talking about , passion ,personality clashes ,previous history educating people who are new to the sport , and presenters who make it fun.
Now that we all know SKY will be showing NASCAR Sprint races upto the end of 2009. Shall we begin a new thread dedicated just to NASCAR on SKY.
The old thread titled 'NASCAR coverage in England' was really great, but we need to concentrate on getting SKY upto speed on how we want them to broadcast the races.
We all want the pre-race show back, less UK studio time, and more of the US extras, such as the cut away car and pit row reports.
We can get SKY to do it the way we used to have it on NASN a few years back.
Couldnt agree more with this. Without this input how are people ment to understand the intricacies of NASCAR.Quote:
We all want the pre-race show back, less UK studio time, and more of the US extras, such as the cut away car and pit row reports.
I hope you over the other side of the Atlantic can get it that way. You might contact Sky where you're located and also to both Fox Sports and NASCAR in Daytona to show your concerns.
Pit lane reporting is crucial. There are some times I watch an F1 race here in the States and without pit notes, you cannot have crucial information. Does ITV (I have heard of them, of course, they gave us Idols and Millionaire, two popular shows in the States, Millionaire now is a 5-day a week strip) have pit road reports in F1 races?
Of course now having ex-mechanics working races is one of the best things I've seen in motorsport. ESPN Classic showed some old Daytona 500 races and it's clearly different how it was with Bill Flemming and Jackie Stewart, Ken Squier and David Hobbs in the 1970's, the 1990's when we saw the rise of Ned Jarrett who moved from pit lane to being the lead analyst, and the legendary 1998 "500" when Mike Joy, Buddy Baker, and Ned Jarrett, and even to the modern three-man commentary box of lead, driver, and mechanic. (Joy, McReynolds, D. Waltrip and also Punch, D. Jarrett, Petree are the examples in NASCAR)
Three-man booths are a trend US television developed since NFL coverage in 1970.
Could not believe how bad the two bozos were on Sky the other night! Could not even get the drivers names right. I have already sent Sky a email telling them so, and how we need the Fox pre-race show back.
It is now down to every UK NASCAR fan to write emails to Sky and DEMAND better coverage. :confused:
yes they do although f1 teams aren't as free with their information(or is that mis information) as nascar teams appear to be. that situation has changed slightly in that they have been getting pit wall access and garage access to a specific(but different) team each week. the nascar studio team live and breathe nascar and so can give a better view of what's going on compared to sky's studio which often(but not always) comprises those in motorsport but not necessarily the category they are presenting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobbyC
Not trying to push my way in on this but im as frustrated as you guys, spoke to sky sports viewer relations to express my feelings to the powers that be , i said do you guys not respond to our feedback and how do we know the right people are getting our emails.Have you seen the Nascar fans thoughts on your coverage and how important the pre and post race shows are on the forums . They had no plans to show the pre race and post race shows as they didnt have the rights to show it , i assume because they didnt buy it , they didnt think that after the deal was done they could change it .
My thoughts are
1) would Nascar sell the coverage to sky without it because if they did wtf.
if they want the sport to grow around the world they must know how important it is , so i say i dont buy that and i think Nascar need to know that sky arent showing it,but we may need help from some of the Nascar people in the states.
2) They mentioned how long each race was and i guess they were almost saying they didnt have enough air time , they should have thought about that before taking it from Nasn and didnt they show the bud shootout 3 or more times. Most Nascar races will not clash with other sports because its late on a sunday night.Dont buy that either.
morral of the story is if you dont do your homework on Nascar and its coverage and fan feed back , maybe you shouldnt have gone for it and left it at Nasn.
try these guys , more of us complain we might get somewhere.
Skysports customer services seem helpful so lets not be to rude .
viewerr@bskyb.com ( viewer realations)
tel no .. 08700240778
think this is a number for sports news editor , might not be as helpful as one above , 02077053000 .
all four of them. hardly representative. the crictical and less tolerant are usually more vociferous than those who are happy or have no opinion either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by blown50stang
what other forums would we find this topic and all let our thoughts known to sky.
www.ten-tenths.com
You do have to wonder if anyone important enough at any company gets to hear 'outside' criticism - they are usually surrounded by people telling them what a great job they are doing, which basically translates to the minions keeping a lid on things because they don't want to appear to be the bringer of bad news to the boss in his ivory tower.
:rolleyes:
PS: What exactly is an ivory tower? :D
Darn - just noticed - NASN is showing the Nationwide race at 8.30am Sunday - so by watching the 500 I am going to know the result before seeing it, because they always mention it, as they would.
Oh well............
:rolleyes:
May have been mentioned earlier on thread but, like many others, I was waiting for setanta at the weekend and found nothing. Flipped around and found that it was now down to Sky.
You cannot really shoot Keith Heuwan down for his presentation - what he lacks in knowledge he makes up with enthusiasm. I'm sure he'll very quickly get up to speed with exactly why we get steamed up over NASCAR. Remember how awful F1 coverage from the studio side when ITV took it over? It soon changed.
As for Ben Collins - he needs a dose of something to make an exciting sport sound exactly that - EXCITING. There is one man here in UK who is a real enthusiast and he's from the world of rallying - that Pentti Arikkala. Mind you his Finnnish English gets quite unintelligible when he gets going!
Give them a few races and maybe, just maybe, SKY will read this and other forums and take note.
I have just cancelled my NASN/Setanta subscription - when asked for the reason I quoted loss of NASCAR. The reply was quite a surprise. Basically they've had a very large number of cancellations due to the loss and very few have been persuaded to stay on at reduced subscription rates. Again the reason was a bit of a surprise - we don't want more soccer!!
Why would you buy the races without the pre race coverage?. These people must be stupid as hell!. I dont know what sky spent on the contract but i bet it was a fair penny, without the pre race its worthless. Looks like we'll all have to keep our NASN subscrpitions so we can watch NASCAR Now otherwise we will never get any news.
and the "havent got enough time in the schedule" is bobbins. Sky sports has so much crap on it its unbelievable. NASCARs pre race show would pull in alot more viewers than BMX ridin or show jumpin.
1 Bit too strongQuote:
Originally Posted by Haulin'AssAndTurnin Left
2 Agree
3 Agree big time
Yeah was a bit strong. it just seems so odd. Ill have to set the laptop up and get the pre race of Speed sunday if the pre race is on speed, fox hasnt been on tvu for ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by colinspooky
Be nice to get the Fox races on TVU - just one more back up
After getting used to the great NASN coverage over the last few years, the Sky Sports show the other night was a bit.........crap.
No pre-race show, and a couple of goons who could not even get the drivers names right!
I think it is now down to every UK fan to email Sky and DEMAND better coverage. If they know the REAL fans are not happy with what they are showing, they will HAVE to change things around, and give us what we want. And that is the full Fox pre and post race coverage. :confused:
Sorry... Why? The Nationwide race will be on NASN before the Daytona 500. What is the issue? I will watch the Nationwide AS LIVE on NASN and then watch the Daytona 500 LIVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by colinspooky
This is absolutely perfect!
lets see how they handle the 150s and the '500 before we launch a full tirade though! you can't do all that off the back of one broadcast!
got email back from sky ,
Dear Simon
Thank you for your e-mail regarding our coverage of Nascar.
Please accept my sincere apologies for any dissatisfaction that you have experienced with our pre and post race coverage and with the presenters of the above programme. All of the commentators on our Sky Sports channels are selected on the basis of their expertise in their particular field, and we do endeavour to ensure that our commentators provide our viewers with information that will complement and enhance their enjoyment of the event in progress.
However, your comments have been noted and passed on to Sky Sports for their information.
I trust the above information is of value to you and thank you for contacting Sky.
Kind regards
Gordon Smith
Viewer Relations
dont get any feedback from nascar@skysports.com
for people who had setanta just for Nascar , like myself ,now we pay more and get a lot less without being able to do anything about it , really its not the money its the coverage im not going to stop making a pain of myself to sky as its not right
aha - so, the big hand is on the eight and the little hand is........
I really do need to learn how to tell the time..... :D
with posts like this NASCAR fans are becoming as petty as Star trek fans. Take a chill pill, provide POSITIVE feed back to Sky and give them a chance.
How much more does it add whether you watch Keith Heuwen in the studio providing a race update or a 3 lap down car circulating while the producer checks out the manoeuvrability of the camera. Sky did not miss a restart, yes they had no pre or post race stuff but the main bit is the race itself!
Sky has HD and widescreen coverage which NASN or Motors TV previosuly did not.
If Sky have not improved come race 10 then yes start a protest thread. At the moment this is totally pointless!
no chill pill , 10 races , nearly a third of a season, doesnt take a brain surgon at sky to get their coverage right.i dont see why they didnt look at the coverage Fox , Tnt , Espn and Nasn were showing before they even bought the rights , just seems that when somethings ok somebody always comes along and messes it up, wonder what the US Nascar fans would say if Fox didnt show any pre or post race show this Sunday for the 500 ,just because we are the other side of the pond we still have the same passon for the sport ,it doesnt mean we shouldnt try and get what works.Rather than some of us disagreeing shouldnt we a let our thoughts know , bet you would all be to happy to watch it.
Make a stand about what exactly? Talk about over egging the pudding.
How many threads do we need about the TV coverage?
We have had one show so far. Can we please keep things in perspective?
If you are not happy with what SKY are offering, email them and let them know.
Ok so Keith has just announced the 'vast majority' of the Cup races will be live - as in not all of them.
So not quite what we thought but we'll see how the schedule pans out.
Yeah, the guy just admitted hes practically learning as he goes week by week sounds like he has real expertise. Oh well the most important thing is that he noticed Tony Stuart has the coolest visor in NASCAR I don't understand what everyones complaining about with information like that on offer. :pQuote:
All of the commentators on our Sky Sports channels are selected on the basis of their expertise in their particular field
i think that broadcast was a vast improvement on the Shootout. it started off a bit sloppy with absolutely no pre-race coverage from Speed/Fox and returning to the action a bit later, but as the show went on it started to improve. i found myslef shouting at the TV (at sky anyway!) a lot less. i liked the increased coverage from the track between the 2 races and an incresed number of post-race interviews after race 2. the guest seemed to know a bit about the sport. when i heard he was from autosport, i thought "oh no, he'll only know about F1" but he was quite knowledgable
bad points:
- the broadcast was in SD with no widescreen
- a few occations of going to the Speed commentary a bit late. Keith needs to learn to cut his hand overs down to only a few words. "now back to the track" would be suitable, not waffling on
- an open addmission that he knows next-to-nothing about NASCAR
better coverage of gatorade duals ,less time in studio more time with speed , i enjoyed it more ,come on guys pre race and a bit more post race and you got it.Please. :rolleyes:
Yeah no widescreen, was that beacuse it was a SPEED feed?
I thought it was better than Saturday's show.
I'm pleased to hear again tonight that they are taking on board our comments.
Julian
i dont think its an issue with the duels being on speed because speed have just launched a HD channel, so it would have been produced in HD
There was a High definiton widescreen feed to Europe, so do not know why we got 4:3Quote:
Originally Posted by JovialJooles
Moan moan moan whinge whinge whinge. Some of you guys must be a real joy to live with, and I have no doubt that you all excell every minute of every working hour in your chosen proffessions.
This is Sky's first year of coverage, they were bound to use an existing presenter and Keith Huewen has covered all manner of Motorsport for them in the past. He is enthusiastic, energetic, passionate about all motorsport, and he is HONEST. Would you prefer him to b*******t his way through, isn't it better he admits he is learning the finer details as he goes along, and doesn't he look like he is enjoying it? I take him all day every day over some geek spouting technicalities.
Wake up...This programme has not been instigated to keep the relatively small number of hardcore enthusiats happy. If we all want coverage to continue and grow then it needs to appeal to much wider audience and the presenters last night seemed a perfect partnership to do this.
Give Sky a break please (no I don't work for them).
I tend to agree, I thought last night's effort was a significant improvement on the shootout and it appears that Sky have taken a lot of the critical comments on board. I decided to wait until after the 500 to add my two pence worth as the full race will give us a good idea of what to expect for the rest of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by FeeWaybill
Last night was much better than saturdays shocker. Still alot to work on but was watchable albeit late as some selfish tit chucked themselves under a train at Romford so i didnt get home until 9.
Hopefully sundays even better.
I know Sky always like to use there own people on Sky Sports, like there NFL coverage. But this time they should take heed of the fans and give us what we want and PAY for. :confused: